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        &lt;p class="authors"&gt;                                  By Philip Pullella in Rome&lt;br /&gt;                &lt;/p&gt;          &lt;p class="published"&gt;Thursday February 09 2012&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;/div&gt;                &lt;p&gt;Hiding behind a culture of  "omerta" -- the Italian word for  the Mafia's code of silence -- would be deadly for the Catholic Church,  the Vatican's top official for dealing with sexual abuse of minors by  clergy said yesterday.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Monsignor Charles Scicluna made the  unusually forthright  comment in his speech to a landmark symposium in  Rome on the sexual-abuse crisis that has rocked the church in the past  decade.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;"The teaching . . . that truth is at the basis of justice  explains why a deadly culture of silence, or 'omerta,' is in itself  wrong and unjust," Msgr Scicluna told the four-day symposium, which  brings together 200 people  including bishops, leaders of religious  orders, victims of abuse and psychologists.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rarely, if ever, has a  Vatican official used the word "omerta" -- a serious accusation in  Italian -- to compare the reluctance of some in the church to come clean  on the abuse scandal with the Mafia's code of silence.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;"Other  enemies of the truth are the deliberate denial of  known facts and the  misplaced concern that the good name of the institution should somehow  enjoy absolute priority to the detriment of disclosure," Msgr Scicluna  added.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Victims' groups have for years accused some bishops in the  church of preferring silence and cover-ups to coming clean on the  scandal, which has sullied the image of the church around the world.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;On  Tuesday, an Irish victim of clerical abuse bluntly told the symposium  that guidelines on how to root out paedophile  priests and protect  children needed to be backed up by penalties for bishops who failed to  implement them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Marie Collins said rules without sanctions were too easily  ignored and cases were often swept under the carpet.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="articleAuthor"&gt;- Philip Pullella in Rome&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7322511481612577767-2781973123376822706?l=badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/feeds/2781973123376822706/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/2012/02/vatican-official-attacks-omerta.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7322511481612577767/posts/default/2781973123376822706'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7322511481612577767/posts/default/2781973123376822706'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/2012/02/vatican-official-attacks-omerta.html' title='Vatican official attacks &apos;omerta&apos;'/><author><name>Bad News</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12774679970522264882</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7322511481612577767.post-4626006083460444488</id><published>2012-01-06T09:22:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-06T09:24:28.367-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Christians accused of the murder of a  'witch'</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16427840"&gt;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16427840&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="date" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; font-weight: bold; font-size: 13px; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;5 January 2012&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 16px; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="time-text" style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; font-size: 13px; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;Last updated at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="time" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; font-size: 13px; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;17:31 GMT&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;h1 class="story-header" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 34px; margin-top: 3px; margin-right: -160px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 2.461em; clear: both; position: relative; width: 623px; letter-spacing: -1px; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;Kristy Bamu 'murdered over witch claim' in Newham&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;div class="caption body-narrow-width" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; position: relative; clear: both; float: right; display: inline; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: -160px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 16px; font-size: 13px; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;&lt;img src="http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/57714000/jpg/_57714469_013637879-1.jpg" width="304" height="171" alt="Eric Bikubi and Magalie Bamu" style="border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; -webkit-user-select: none; position: relative; letter-spacing: 0px; font-style: italic; " /&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; width: 304px; "&gt;Eric Bikubi and Magalie Bamu deny murder&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="story-feature related narrow" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; position: relative; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: -160px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 16px; width: 144px; float: right; display: inline; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; clear: right; font-size: 13px; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;&lt;a class="hidden" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16427840#story_continues_1" style="color: rgb(74, 113, 148); text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold; position: absolute; top: -5000px; left: -5000px; "&gt;Continue reading the main story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;h2 style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 11px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 12px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.231em; border-top-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(216, 216, 216); border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(216, 216, 216); text-rendering: optimizelegibility; "&gt;Related Stories&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;ul class="related-links-list" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 8px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; clear: both; border-top-style: none; border-top-width: initial; border-top-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;li style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-13452575" style="color: rgb(74, 113, 148); text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Woman denies brother bath killing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class="introduction" id="story_continues_1" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; font-weight: bold; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;A 15-year-old boy was tortured and drowned by his sister and her boyfriend because they believed he was a witch, the Old Bailey has heard.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;Kristy Bamu, from Paris, was found dead in Newham, east London, on Christmas Day in 2010.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;The boy had 101 injuries and died from being beaten with a metal bar and drowning, the court heard.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;His sister Magalie Bamu and her boyfriend, Eric Bikubi, both Congolese and aged 28, of Newham, deny murder.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;Prosecutors told jurors of acts they described as "depraved", "wicked" and "cruel".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;Mr Bikubi admitted manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility, a plea not accepted by the prosecution.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;&lt;strong style="line-height: 16px; font-weight: bold; "&gt;'Armoury of weapons'&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="caption body-narrow-width" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; position: relative; clear: both; float: right; display: inline; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: -160px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 16px; font-size: 13px; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;&lt;img src="http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/57724000/jpg/_57724684_kristybamumet.jpg" width="304" height="171" alt="Kristy Bamu" style="border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; -webkit-user-select: none; position: relative; letter-spacing: 0px; font-style: italic; " /&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; width: 304px; "&gt;Kristy Bamu and his siblings were visiting London from Paris during the Christmas holidays&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;Kristy and his siblings were visiting the couple for Christmas, but Mr Bikubi had accused the boy and two of his siblings of witchcraft, the court heard.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;All three were beaten and other children were forced to join in the attacks. But it was Kristy who became the focus of Mr Bikubi's attention, the prosecution said.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;The teenager was said to be in such pain after days of being hit with an "armoury of weapons" including sticks, pliers, a metal bar, hammer and chisel that he begged to die.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;Brian Altman QC, prosecuting, said: "Eventually Bikubi took him into the bathroom, put him in the bath and started to run the water.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;"Kristy was just too badly injured and exhausted to resist or to keep his head above the water.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;"It was only when he [Mr Bikubi] realised that Kristy was not moving that he stopped what he was doing and pulled him from the water."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;He added: "By then it was too late."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="story-feature narrow" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; position: relative; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: -160px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 16px; width: 144px; float: right; display: inline; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; clear: right; font-size: 13px; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;&lt;a class="hidden" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16427840#story_continues_2" style="color: rgb(74, 113, 148); text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold; position: absolute; top: -5000px; left: -5000px; "&gt;Continue reading the main story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;h2 class="quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 6px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 5px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.231em; border-top-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(216, 216, 216); border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(216, 216, 216); text-rendering: optimizelegibility; text-indent: -500px; background-image: url(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/view/2_0_8/cream/hi/shared/img/story_sprite.png); position: relative; clear: both; background-position: 0px -188px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; "&gt;“&lt;span style="display: block; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; text-indent: -5000px; "&gt;Start Quote&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;blockquote style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; float: left; display: inline; font-weight: bold; "&gt;&lt;p class="first-child" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.231em; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; clear: left; "&gt;He had sent his children on holiday, not to a torture chamber”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="quote-credit" style="display: block; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; clear: both; "&gt;Brian Altman QC&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p id="story_continues_2" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;The youngsters were forced to lie to their parents about what was happening when they phoned home, the jury heard.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;Mr Altman said of Kristy's father: "He had sent his children on holiday, not to a torture chamber."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;When police arrived they found Kristy and his siblings - brother Yves, 22, and and sister Kelly, 20, and other children.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;Mr Altman said: "All were standing in the living room, hysterical, terrified and soaking wet.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span class="cross-head" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; display: block; font-weight: bold; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 1.231em; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;'Sorcerers'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;"None of them spoke any English."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;Kelly Bamu said Mr Bikubi and Ms Bamu accused Kristy, herself and a third child of "being witches or sorcerers - practising witchcraft" which adversely influenced another child.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;"Despite her own siblings' denials that they were sorcerers, Magalie Bamu joined her boyfriend in repeating these fantastic claims and participating in the assaults," Mr Altman said.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;The three were beaten and refused food, drink and sleep and eventually, to stop the torture, they admitted being sorcerers, the jury was told.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;Mr Altman said Mr Bikubi's admission of manslaughter was rejected by the prosecution, which argues the couple carried out "the very deliberate murder" of Kristy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span class="cross-head" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; display: block; font-weight: bold; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 1.231em; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;'Feral and evil'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;Ms Bamu also denies two charges of causing actual bodily harm to her other siblings.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;The defendants are originally from the Democratic Republic of the Congo.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;The jury heard that witchcraft or sorcery - called kindoki - is practised in Congolese Christian churches.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;Mr Altman said that taken out of the church's control "it may take on a feral and indeed evil character, as we suggest it did here".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;The court heard that in 2008 Mr Bikubi had accused a family friend of being involved in witchcraft and had forced her to cut her hair short to purge herself.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; 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                                          &lt;h1&gt;7 Charged With Hate Crimes In Amish Hair Attacks&lt;/h1&gt;                      &lt;div id="storybyline" class="storylocation"&gt;                                                 &lt;div class="bucketwrap byline" id="res19761027"&gt;                                                       &lt;p class="byline"&gt;by &lt;span&gt;The Associated Press&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;                         &lt;/div&gt;                                                &lt;/div&gt;                                          &lt;/div&gt;                                       &lt;div id="storytext" class="storylocation"&gt;                                                                                        &lt;div class="dateblock"&gt;                                                                                                    &lt;span class="date"&gt;November 23, 2011&lt;/span&gt;                                               &lt;/div&gt;                      &lt;p&gt;The leader of a breakaway Amish group allowed  the beatings of those who disobeyed him, made some members sleep in a  chicken coop and had sexual relations with married women to "cleanse  them," federal authorities said as they charged him and six others with  hate crime counts in hair-cutting attacks against other Amish.&lt;/p&gt;                     &lt;p&gt;Authorities  raided the group's compound in eastern Ohio on Wednesday morning and  arrested seven men, including group leader Sam Mullet and three of his  sons.&lt;/p&gt;                     &lt;p&gt;Several members of the group carried  out the attacks in September and October by forcefully cutting the  beards and hair of Amish men and women, authorities said. Cutting the  hair is a highly offensive act to the Amish, who believe the Bible  instructs women to let their hair grow long and men to grow beards and  stop shaving once they marry.&lt;/p&gt;                     &lt;p&gt;The attacks  struck at the core of the Amish identity and tested their principles.  They strongly believe that they must be forgiving in order for God to  forgive them, which often means handing out their own punishment and not  reporting crimes to law enforcement.&lt;/p&gt;                     &lt;p&gt;The attacks had terrorized Amish communities, Jefferson County Sheriff Fred Abdalla said at a news conference Wednesday.&lt;/p&gt;                     &lt;p&gt;"You've  got Amish all over the state of Ohio and Pennsylvania and Indiana that  are concerned. We've received hundreds and hundreds of calls from people  living in fear," he said. "They are buying Mace, some are sitting with  shotguns, getting locks on their doors because of Sam Mullet."&lt;/p&gt;                     &lt;p&gt;Mullet  told The Associated Press in October that he didn't order the  hair-cutting but didn't stop his sons and others from carrying it out.  He said the goal was to send a message to other Amish that they should  be ashamed of themselves for the way they were treating Mullet and his  community.&lt;/p&gt;                     &lt;p&gt;"They changed the rulings of our  church here, and they're trying to force their way down our throat, make  us do like they want us to do, and we're not going to do that," Mullet  said.&lt;/p&gt;                     &lt;p&gt;U.S. Attorney Steven Dettelbach said  Wednesday that religious differences should be a matter of theological  debate, not disputes "resolved by late night visits to people's homes  with weapons and violent attacks." He said he did not know how often  hate crimes involve intradenominational disputes.&lt;/p&gt;                     &lt;p&gt;The  seven men were in custody and expected to be arraigned Wednesday in  Youngstown. They include Mullet; his sons Johnny, Lester and Daniel;  Levi Miller; Eli Miller; and Emanuel Schrock. The charges carry a  penalty of up 10 years in prison.&lt;/p&gt;                     &lt;p&gt;Holmes  County Prosecutor Steve Knowling, who filed state charges against five  of the same defendants last month, said he would dismiss those counts  and let federal prosecutors take the lead in the case.&lt;/p&gt;                     &lt;p&gt;In  the state case, an Amish bishop and his son said they were held down  while men used scissors and a clipper to cut their beards. Similar  attacks were under investigation in Amish communities in Carroll,  Jefferson and Trumbull counties in eastern and northeastern Ohio.&lt;/p&gt;                     &lt;p&gt;A  defense attorney in the state case, Andy Hyde, said Sam Mullet would  fight the federal charges. Hyde said he didn't know if he would  represent Mullet in federal court.&lt;/p&gt;                     &lt;p&gt;The seven  men were sleeping when the FBI and local police showed up at their homes  before dawn Wednesday, Abdalla said. Three men initially refused to  come out of their rooms, but all seven were arrested without incident,  he said.&lt;/p&gt;                     &lt;p&gt;The attacks came amid long-simmering  tension between Amish bishops and Mullet's group, which he established  in 1995. Arlene Miller, the wife of one victim, said several bishops  hadn't condoned Mullet's decision to excommunicate several members,  saying there was no spiritual justification for his action.&lt;/p&gt;                     &lt;p&gt;One  of Mullet's daughters-in-law and a former brother-in-law told  investigators that Mullet controls everything that happens within the  community outside Bergholz and that he allowed others to beat members of  the group who disobeyed him, according to an affidavit filed in federal  court Wednesday.&lt;/p&gt;                     &lt;p&gt;Mullet punished some by  making them sleep in a chicken coop for days and was sexually intimate  with married women in the community so that he could "cleanse them of  the devil," the two said in the affidavit.&lt;/p&gt;                     &lt;p&gt;Both said they left the community because they did not want to live under Mullet's control.&lt;/p&gt;                     &lt;p&gt;Authorities have said some Amish refused to press charges, following their practice of avoiding involvement the courts.&lt;/p&gt;                     &lt;p&gt;One  couple refused to press charges even after acknowledging that their two  sons and another man came into their house, held them down, and cut the  father's beard and the mother's hair. But others have said they decided  to press charges to prevent anyone else from getting hurt.&lt;/p&gt;                     &lt;p&gt;Ohio  has an estimated Amish population of just under 61,000 second only to  Pennsylvania with most living in rural counties south and east of  Cleveland.&lt;/p&gt;                     &lt;p&gt;They have a modest lifestyle and  are deeply religious. 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font-size: 12px; line-height: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;The Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion &amp;amp; Public Life, launched in 2001, seeks to promote a deeper understanding of issues at the intersection of religion and public affairs.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;The Pew Forum conducts surveys, demographic analyses and other social science research on important aspects of religion and public life in the U.S. and around the world. It also provides a neutral venue for discussions of timely issues through roundtables and briefings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;&lt;div class="page-info" style="line-height: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 18px; margin-right: 18px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 18px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;h3 id="ctl00_ctl00_BodyContent_LayoutPlaceholder_h3PageSubtitle" class="page-subtitle" style="font-size: 20px; line-height: 20px; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; font-style: italic; display: block; "&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;h5 class="page-byline" style="font-size: 11px; line-height: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 20px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); "&gt;&lt;span id="ctl00_ctl00_BodyContent_LayoutPlaceholder_lblPublicationType" class="page-byline-type" style="font-size: 11px; line-height: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; background-image: url(http://static.pewforum.org/styles/images/bullet.gif); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; padding-right: 10px; margin-right: 4px; background-position: 100% 50%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; "&gt;POLL&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id="ctl00_ctl00_BodyContent_LayoutPlaceholder_lblPublishDate" class="page-byline-date" style="font-size: 11px; line-height: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; "&gt;September 28, 2010&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h5&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="article-container" style="font-size: 11px; line-height: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 17px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 17px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 60px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;div class="article-paragraph managed-content" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; " id="ctl00_ctl00_BodyContent_LayoutPlaceholder_articlePageContent"&gt;&lt;h1 style="font-size: 20px; line-height: 20px; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; font-style: italic; display: block; "&gt;Executive Summary&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Atheists and agnostics, Jews and Mormons are among the highest-scoring groups on a new survey of religious knowledge, outperforming evangelical Protestants, mainline Protestants and Catholics on questions about the core teachings, history and leading figures of major world religions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;On average, Americans correctly answer 16 of the 32 religious knowledge questions on the survey by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion &amp;amp; Public Life. &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Atheists and agnostics average 20.9 correct answers. Jews and Mormons do about as well, averaging 20.5 and 20.3 correct answers, respectively. Protestants as a whole average 16 correct answers; Catholics as a whole, 14.7. Atheists and agnostics, Jews and Mormons perform better than other groups on the survey even after controlling for differing levels of education.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;On questions about Christianity – including a battery of questions about the Bible – Mormons (7.9 out of 12 right on average) and white evangelical Protestants (7.3 correct on average) show the highest levels of knowledge. Jews and atheists/agnostics stand out for their knowledge of other world religions, including Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism and Judaism; out of 11 such questions on the survey, Jews answer 7.9 correctly (nearly three better than the national average) and atheists/agnostics answer 7.5 correctly (2.5 better than the national average). Atheists/agnostics and Jews also do particularly well on questions about the role of religion in public life, including a question about what the U.S. Constitution says about religion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;&lt;div class="article-container" style="font-size: 11px; line-height: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 17px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 17px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 60px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;div class="article-paragraph managed-content" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;img align="top" title="religious-knowledge-01 10-09-28" alt="religious-knowledge-01 10-09-28" src="http://pewforum.org/uploadedImages/Topics/Belief_and_Practices/religious-knowledge-01.png" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; border-top-color: transparent; border-right-color: transparent; border-bottom-color: transparent; border-left-color: transparent; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; " /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;img align="top" title="religious-knowledge-02 10-09-28" alt="religious-knowledge-02 10-09-28" src="http://pewforum.org/uploadedImages/Topics/Belief_and_Practices/religious-knowledge-02.png" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; border-top-color: transparent; border-right-color: transparent; border-bottom-color: transparent; border-left-color: transparent; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; " /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;a class="bookmark" title="Text1" name="Text1" href="http://pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx#" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 51, 102); "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;These are among the key findings of the U.S. Religious Knowledge Survey, a nationwide poll conducted from May 19 through June 6, 2010,&lt;a href="http://pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx#ast" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; "&gt;*&lt;/a&gt; among 3,412 Americans age 18 and older, on landlines and cell phones, in English and Spanish. &lt;/span&gt;Jews, Mormons and atheists/agnostics were oversampled to allow analysis of these relatively small groups.&lt;sup style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; position: relative; height: 0px; bottom: 0.75ex; "&gt;&lt;a title="1" href="http://pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx#Footnotes" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 51, 102); "&gt;1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;a title="Previous surveys" href="http://religions.pewforum.org/comparisons" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 51, 102); "&gt;Previous surveys&lt;/a&gt; by the Pew Research Center have shown that America is among the most religious of the world’s developed nations. Nearly six-in-ten U.S. adults say that religion is “very important” in their lives, and roughly four-in-ten say they attend worship services at least once a week. But the U.S. Religious Knowledge Survey shows that large numbers of Americans are uninformed about the tenets, practices, history and leading figures of major faith traditions – including their own. Many people also think the constitutional restrictions on religion in public schools are stricter than they really are.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;img align="right" src="http://pewforum.org/uploadedImages/Topics/Belief_and_Practices/religious-knowledge-03.png" alt="religious-knowledge-03 10-09-28" title="religious-knowledge-03 10-09-28" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; border-top-color: transparent; border-right-color: transparent; border-bottom-color: transparent; border-left-color: transparent; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 15px; " /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;More than four-in-ten Catholics in the United States (45%) do not know that their church teaches that the bread and wine used in Communion do not merely symbolize but actually become the body and blood of Christ. &lt;/span&gt;About half of Protestants (53%) cannot correctly identify Martin Luther as the person whose writings and actions inspired the Protestant Reformation, which made their religion a separate branch of Christianity. Roughly four-in-ten Jews (43%) do not recognize that Maimonides, one of the most venerated rabbis in history, was Jewish.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;In addition, &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;fewer than half of Americans (47%) know that the Dalai Lama is Buddhist.&lt;/span&gt; Fewer than four-in-ten (38%) correctly associate Vishnu and Shiva with Hinduism. And only about a quarter of all Americans (27%) correctly answer that most people in Indonesia – the country with the &lt;a title="world’s largest Muslim population" href="http://pewforum.org/WorkArea/linkit.aspx?LinkIdentifier=id&amp;amp;ItemID=376" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 51, 102); "&gt;world’s largest Muslim population&lt;/a&gt; – are Muslims.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;a class="bookmark" title="Text2" name="Text2" href="http://pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx#" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 51, 102); "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;The survey also finds widespread confusion over the line between teaching and preaching in public schools. Out of a total of 41 knowledge questions (32 about religion and nine testing general knowledge) the single question that respondents most frequently get right is whether U.S. Supreme Court rulings allow teachers to lead public school classes in prayer. Nine-in-ten (89%) correctly say this is not allowed. But among the questions most often answered &lt;em style="font-size: inherit; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: italic; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;incorrectly &lt;/em&gt;is whether public school teachers are permitted to read from the Bible as an example of literature. Fully two-thirds of people surveyed (67%) also say “no” to this question, even though the Supreme Court has clearly stated that the Bible may be taught for its “literary and historic” qualities, as long as it is part of a secular curriculum.&lt;sup style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; position: relative; height: 0px; bottom: 0.75ex; "&gt;&lt;a title="2" href="http://pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx#Footnotes" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 51, 102); "&gt;2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; On a third question along these lines, just 36% of the public knows that comparative religion classes may be taught in public schools. Together, this block of questions suggests that many Americans &lt;em style="font-size: inherit; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: italic; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;think &lt;/em&gt;the constitutional restrictions on religion in public schools are tighter than they really are.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img align="top" src="http://pewforum.org/uploadedImages/Topics/Belief_and_Practices/religious-knowledge-04.png" alt="religious-knowledge-04 10-09-28" title="religious-knowledge-04 10-09-28" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; border-top-color: transparent; border-right-color: transparent; border-bottom-color: transparent; border-left-color: transparent; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; " /&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;On the other hand, most Americans are able to correctly answer at least half of the survey’s questions about the Bible. For example, roughly seven-in-ten (71%) know that, according to the Bible, Jesus was born in Bethlehem. More than six-in-ten (63%) correctly name Genesis as the first book of the Bible. And more than half know that the Golden Rule – “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” – is&lt;em style="font-size: inherit; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: italic; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;not &lt;/em&gt;one of the Ten Commandments. &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;On the full battery of seven questions about the Bible (five Old Testament and two New Testament items) Mormons do best, followed by white evangelical Protestants. Atheists/agnostics, black Protestants and Jews come next, all exhibiting greater knowledge of the Bible than white mainline Protestants and white Catholics,&lt;/span&gt; who in turn outscore those who describe their religion as nothing in particular.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2 style="font-size: 16px; line-height: 1.2em; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 9px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(153, 0, 0); text-decoration: none; display: block; "&gt;Factors in Religious Knowledge&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;img align="right" src="http://pewforum.org/uploadedImages/Topics/Belief_and_Practices/religious-knowledge-05.png" alt="religious-knowledge-05 10-09-28" title="religious-knowledge-05 10-09-28" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; border-top-color: transparent; border-right-color: transparent; border-bottom-color: transparent; border-left-color: transparent; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 15px; " /&gt;What factors seem to contribute to religious knowledge? Data from the survey indicate that educational attainment – how much schooling an individual has completed – is the single best predictor of religious knowledge. College graduates get nearly eight more questions right on average than do people with a high school education or less. Having taken a religion course in college is also strongly associated with higher religious knowledge.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;a class="bookmark" title="Text3" name="Text3" href="http://pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx#" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 51, 102); "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Other factors linked with religious knowledge include reading Scripture at least once a week and talking about religion with friends and family. People who say they frequently talk about religion with friends and family get an average of roughly two more questions right than those who say they rarely or never discuss religion. People with the highest levels of religious commitment – those who say that they attend worship services at least once a week and that religion is very important in their lives – generally demonstrate higher levels of religious knowledge than those with medium or low religious commitment.&lt;sup style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; position: relative; height: 0px; bottom: 0.75ex; "&gt;&lt;a title="3" href="http://pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx#Footnotes" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 51, 102); "&gt;3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; Having regularly attended religious education classes or participated in a youth group as a child adds more than two questions to the average number answered correctly, compared with those who seldom or never participated in such activities. And those who attended private school score more than two questions better on average than those who attended public school when they were growing up. Interestingly, however, those who attended a private &lt;em style="font-size: inherit; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: italic; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;religious&lt;/em&gt;school score no better than those who attended a private &lt;em style="font-size: inherit; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: italic; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;nonreligious &lt;/em&gt;school.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;This survey and previous &lt;a title="Pew Forum studies" href="http://religions.pewforum.org/pdf/report-religious-landscape-study-chapter-3.pdf" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; "&gt;Pew Forum studies&lt;/a&gt; have shown that Jews and atheists/agnostics have high levels of educational attainment on average, which partially explains their performance on the religious knowledge survey.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;b&gt; However, &lt;em style="font-size: inherit; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: italic; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;even after controlling for levels of education&lt;/em&gt; and other key demographic traits (race, age, gender and region), significant differences in religious knowledge persist among adherents of various faith traditions. Atheists/agnostics, Jews and Mormons still have the highest levels of religious knowledge, followed by evangelical Protestants, then those whose religion is nothing in particular, mainline Protestants and Catholics.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt; Atheists/agnostics and Jews stand out for high levels of knowledge about world religions other than Christianity, though they also score at or above the national average on questions about the Bible and Christianity.&lt;/span&gt; Holding demographic factors constant, evangelical Protestants outperform most groups (with the exceptions of Mormons and atheists/agnostics) on questions about the Bible and Christianity, but evangelicals fare less well compared with other groups on questions about world religions such as Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism and Judaism. Mormons are the highest-scoring group on questions about the Bible.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;When education and other demographic traits are held equal, whites score better than minorities on the survey’s religious knowledge questions, men score somewhat better than women, and people outside the South score better than Southerners. The oldest group in the population (age 65 and older) gets fewer questions right than other age groups. However, people 65 and older do about as well as people under age 50 on questions about the Bible and Christianity; they do less well on questions about other world religions.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2 style="font-size: 16px; line-height: 1.2em; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 9px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(153, 0, 0); text-decoration: none; display: block; "&gt;Other Findings&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Other findings of the U.S. Religious Knowledge Survey include:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 15px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;li style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; list-style-type: disc; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; "&gt;On world religions other than Christianity, about six-in-ten Americans (62%) know that most people in India are Hindus. About half know that Ramadan is the Islamic holy month (52%) and can name the Koran as the Muslim holy book (54%). Roughly one-third (36%) correctly associate striving for nirvana with Buddhism.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 15px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;li style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; list-style-type: disc; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; "&gt;Around four-in-ten Americans know that the Mormon religion was founded sometime after 1800 (44%) and that the Book of Mormon tells the story of Jesus appearing to people in the Americas (40%). About half (51%) correctly identify Joseph Smith, founder of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, as a Mormon.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 15px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;li style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; list-style-type: disc; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; "&gt;In addition to questions about religious knowledge, the survey included nine general knowledge questions (on history, politics, science and literature) for comparison purposes. These show, for example, that about six-in-ten Americans can name the vice president of the United States (59%) and understand that lasers do &lt;em style="font-size: inherit; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: italic; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;not &lt;/em&gt;work by focusing sound waves (60%). More than seven-in-ten (72%) correctly associate Susan B. Anthony with the movement to give women the right to vote, while just 42% know that Herman Melville was the author of the novel &lt;em style="font-size: inherit; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: italic; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Moby Dick&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 15px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;li style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; list-style-type: disc; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; "&gt;Overall, people who score well on the general knowledge questions also tend to do well on the religion questions. Atheists/agnostics and Jews correctly answer an average of roughly seven of the nine general knowledge questions. Among the public overall, the average respondent correctly answers 5.2 of these general knowledge questions.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 15px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;li style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; list-style-type: disc; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; "&gt;While people with a high level of religious commitment do better than average on the religion questions, people with low levels of religious commitment do better than average on the general knowledge questions.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 15px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;li style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; list-style-type: disc; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; "&gt;Many Americans are devoted readers of Scripture: More than a third (37%) say they read the Bible or other Holy Scriptures at least once a week, not counting worship services. But Americans as a whole are much less inclined to read other books about religion. Nearly half of Americans who are affiliated with a religion (48%) say they “seldom” or “never” read books (other than Scripture) or visit websites about &lt;em style="font-size: inherit; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: italic; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;their own&lt;/em&gt; religion, and 70% say they seldom or never read books or visit websites about &lt;em style="font-size: inherit; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: italic; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;other&lt;/em&gt;religions.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 15px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;li style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; list-style-type: disc; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; "&gt;Mormons, black Protestants and white evangelicals are the most frequent readers of materials about religion. Fully half of all Mormons (51%) and roughly three-in-ten white evangelicals (30%) and black Protestants (29%) report that they read books or go online to learn about&lt;em style="font-size: inherit; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: italic; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt; their own&lt;/em&gt; religion at least once a week. Only a small fraction of all religiously affiliated Americans – 6% of the general public and no more than 8% of any religious group – say they read books (other than Scripture) or visit websites to learn about religions &lt;em style="font-size: inherit; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: italic; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;other than their own&lt;/em&gt; at least once a week.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;The remainder of this report is divided into two parts. Section II, “&lt;a title="Who Knows What About Religion" href="http://pewforum.org/WorkArea/linkit.aspx?LinkIdentifier=id&amp;amp;ItemID=15599" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 51, 102); "&gt;Who Knows What About Religion&lt;/a&gt;,” focuses on differences between religious groups in eight domains of knowledge: the Bible, Elements of Christianity, Elements of Judaism, Elements of Mormonism, World Religions, Atheism and Agnosticism, the Role of Religion in Public Life, and Nonreligious Topics. Section III, “&lt;a title="Factors Linked with Religious Knowledge" href="http://pewforum.org/WorkArea/linkit.aspx?LinkIdentifier=id&amp;amp;ItemID=15600" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 51, 102); "&gt;Factors Linked With Religious Knowledge&lt;/a&gt;,” describes factors associated with religious knowledge. Details about the survey’s methodology are available in &lt;a title="Appendix A" href="http://pewforum.org/WorkArea/linkit.aspx?LinkIdentifier=id&amp;amp;ItemID=15601" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 51, 102); "&gt;Appendix A&lt;/a&gt;, and the full wording of all questions and topline survey results are provided in &lt;a href="http://pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Belief_and_Practices/religious-knowledge-topline.pdf" title="Appendix B" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 51, 102); "&gt;Appendix B&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;This survey is being released at the God in America National Symposium on Religious Literacy on Sept. 28, 2010, in Washington, D.C. WGBH Television in Boston collaborated with the Pew Forum and the Religious Freedom Education Project at the Newseum on the symposium, which will also feature a screening of the three-part PBS documentary "&lt;a title="God in America" href="http://www.pbs.org/godinamerica/" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 51, 102); "&gt;God in America&lt;/a&gt;." The series interweaves documentary footage, historical dramatization and interviews to explore the historical role of religion in the U.S., including its impact on society, politics and culture.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;hr style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; height: 1px; background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span class="small" style="font-size: 11px !important; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; "&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: inherit; font-weight: bold; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Footnotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a name="Footnotes" title="Footnotes" class="bookmark" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 51, 102); "&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;1 &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;The Pew Forum’s 2007 &lt;a title="U.S. Religious Landscape Survey" href="http://religions.pewforum.org/" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; "&gt;U.S. Religious Landscape Survey&lt;/a&gt; estimated that Jews and Mormons each make up about 1.7% of the U.S. public, while atheists and agnostics combined account for about 4% of the U.S. population. Atheists and agnostics are treated as a single group throughout this report. The survey sample included too few interviews with atheists to analyze them separately. &lt;/span&gt;For more details on the sample sizes of religious groups, see &lt;a title="Appendix A" href="http://pewforum.org/WorkArea/linkit.aspx?LinkIdentifier=id&amp;amp;ItemID=15601" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 51, 102); "&gt;Appendix A&lt;/a&gt;. (&lt;a title="return to text" href="http://pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx#Text1" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 51, 102); "&gt;return to text&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;2 Writing for the Supreme Court majority in its 1&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;963 ruling in &lt;em style="font-size: inherit; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: italic; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Abington School District v. Schempp&lt;/em&gt;, Justice Tom Clark made a case for the importance of the study of religion as the court clarified how public school teachers may go about it: “. . . [I]t might well be said that one's education is not complete without a study of comparative religion or the history of religion and its relationship to the advancement of civilization. It certainly may be said that the Bible is worthy of study for its literary and historic qualities. Nothing we have said here indicates that such study of the Bible or of religion, when presented objectively as part of a secular program of education, may not be effected consistently with the First Amendment.”&lt;/span&gt; (&lt;a title="return to text" href="http://pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx#Text2" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 51, 102); "&gt;return to text&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; "&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; "&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; "&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; "&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; "&gt;3 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; "&gt;This may seem paradoxical, since atheists and agnostics have very low levels of religious commitment and yet score very well on the survey questions. However, atheists and agnostics account for a relatively small share of the total number of people with low levels of religious commitment; 4% of Americans describe themselves as atheists or agnostics, while fully 35% have low religious commitment. Atheists and agnostics answer an average of 20.9 questions correctly, compared with an average of 15.4 correct answers among people with low religious commitment who do &lt;em style="font-size: inherit; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: italic; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; describe themselves as atheists or agnostics. &lt;/span&gt;(&lt;a title="return to text" href="http://pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx#Text3" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 51, 102); "&gt;return to text&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;a name="ast" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 51, 102); "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;* Correction added April 2011: Interviewing for the survey actually was completed on Friday, June 4, 2010. 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Faith frequently was treated like a circus, even a  freak show.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="float" style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://articles.latimes.com/images/pixel.gif" alt="" height="1" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="mod-ctr-lt-in-top" style="" class="mod-latarticlesadcpc mod-adcpc with-fourth-cpc"&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="mod-a-body-after-first-para" style="" class="mod-latarticlesarticletext mod-articletext"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I  wanted to report objectively and respectfully about how belief shapes  people's lives. Along the way, I believed, my own faith would grow  deeper and sturdier.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But during the eight years I covered religion, something very different happened.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In  1989, a friend took me to Mariners Church, then in Newport Beach, after  saying: "You need God. That's what's missing in your life." At the  time, I was 28 and my first son was less than a year old. I had managed  to nearly ruin my marriage (the second one) and didn't think I'd do much  better as a father. I was profoundly lost.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The mega-church's  pastor, Kenton Beshore, had a knack for making Scripture accessible and  relevant. For someone who hadn't studied the Bible much, these talks fed  a hunger in my soul. The secrets to living well had been there all  along -- in "Life's Instruction Manual," as some Christians nicknamed  the Bible.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Some friends in a Bible study class encouraged me to  attend a men's religious weekend in the San Bernardino Mountains. The  three-day retreats are designed to grind down your defenses and leave  you emotionally raw -- an easier state in which to connect with God.  After 36 hours of prayer, singing, Bible study, intimate sharing and  little sleep, I felt filled with the Holy Spirit.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At the climactic  service Sunday, Mike Barris, a pastor-to-be, delivered an old-fashioned  altar call. He said we needed to let Jesus into our hearts.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;With  my eyes closed in prayer, I saw my heart slowly opening in two and then  being infused with a warm, glowing light. A tingle spread across my  chest. This, I thought, was what it was to be born again.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The  pastor asked those who wanted to accept Jesus to raise their hands. My  hand pretty much levitated on its own. My new friends in Christ, many of  whom I had first met Friday, gave me hugs and slaps on the back.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I  began praying each morning and night. During those quiet times, I  mostly listened for God's voice. And I thought I sensed a plan he had  for me: To write about religion for The Times and bring light into the  newsroom, if only by my stories and example.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My desire to be a  religion reporter grew as I read stories about faith in the mainstream  media. Spiritual people often appeared as nuts or simpletons.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In  one of the most famous examples, the Washington Post ran a news story in  1993 that referred to evangelical Christians as "largely poor,  uneducated and easy to command."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="float" style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://articles.latimes.com/images/pixel.gif" alt="" height="1" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="mod-ctr-in-bt" style="" class="mod-latarticlesadcpc mod-adcpc with-fourth-cpc"&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="float" style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://articles.latimes.com/images/pixel.gif" alt="" height="1" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;Another  maddening trend was that homosexuality and abortion debates dominated  media coverage, as if those where the only topics that mattered to  Christians.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I didn't just pray for a religion writing job; I lobbied hard. In one meeting with editors, my pitch went something like this:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;"What  if I told you that you have an institution in Orange County that draws  more than 15,000 people a weekend and that you haven't written much  about?"&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They said they couldn't imagine such a thing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;"Saddleback Church in Lake Forest draws that type of crowd."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It  took several years and numerous memos and e-mails, but editors finally  agreed in 1998 to let me write "Getting Religion," a weekly column about  faith in Orange County.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I felt like all the tumblers of my life  had clicked. I had a strong marriage, great kids and a new column. I  attributed it all to God's grace.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;First as a columnist and then as  a reporter, I never had a shortage of topics. I wrote about an elderly  church organist who became a spiritual mentor to the man who tried to  rape, rob and kill her. About the Orthodox Jewish mother who developed a  line of modest clothing for Barbie dolls. About the hardy group of  Mormons who rode covered wagons 800 miles from Salt Lake City to San  Bernardino, replicating their ancestors' journey to Southern California.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile,  Roman Catholicism, with its low-key evangelism and deep ritual,  increasingly appealed to me. I loved its long history and loving embrace  of liberals and conservatives, immigrants and the established, the rich  and poor.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My wife was raised in the Catholic Church and had  wanted me to join for years. I signed up for yearlong conversion classes  at a Newport Beach parish that would end with an Easter eve ceremony  ushering newcomers into the church.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;By then I had been on the religion beat for three years. I couldn't wait to get to work each day or, on Sunday, to church.&lt;/p&gt;IN  2001, about six months before the Catholic clergy sex scandal broke  nationwide, the dioceses of Orange and Los Angeles paid a record $5.2  million to a law student who said he had been molested, as a student at  Santa Margarita High School in Rancho Santa Margarita, by his principal,  Msgr. Michael Harris&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Without  admitting guilt, Harris agreed to leave the priesthood. As part of the  settlement, the dioceses also were forced to radically change how they  handled sexual abuse allegations, including a promise to kick out any  priest with a credible molestation allegation in his past. It emerged  that both dioceses had many known molesters on duty. Los Angeles had two  convicted pedophiles still working as priests.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;While reporting  the Harris story, I learned -- from court records and interviews -- the  lengths to which the church went to protect the priest. When Harris took  an abrupt leave of absence as principal at Santa Margarita in January  1994, he issued a statement saying it was because of "stress." He  resigned a month later.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="float" style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://articles.latimes.com/images/pixel.gif" alt="" height="1" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="mod-ctr-lt-in-top" style="" class="mod-latarticlesadcpc mod-adcpc with-fourth-cpc"&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="mod-a-body-after-first-para" style="" class="mod-latarticlesarticletext mod-articletext"&gt;&lt;p&gt;His  superiors didn't tell parents or students the real reason for his  absence: Harris had been accused of molesting a student while he was  principal at Mater Dei High School in Santa Ana from 1977 to 1979;  church officials possessed a note from Harris that appeared to be a  confession; and they were sending him to a treatment center.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In  September 1994, a second former student stepped forward, this time  publicly, and filed a lawsuit. In response, parents and students held a  rally for Harris at the school, singing, "For He's a Jolly Good Fellow."  An airplane towed a banner overhead that read "We Love Father Harris."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;By  this time, church leaders possessed a psychological report in which  Catholic psychiatrists diagnosed Harris as having an attraction to  adolescents and concluded that he likely had molested multiple boys.  (Harris, who has denied the allegations, now stands accused of molesting  12 boys, according to church records.) But they didn't step forward to  set the record straight. Instead, a diocesan spokesman called Harris an  "icon of the priesthood."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Harris' top defense attorney, John  Barnett, lashed out at the priest's accusers in the media, calling them  "sick individuals." Again, church leaders remained silent as the alleged  victims were savaged. Some of the diocese's top priests -- including  the cleric in charge of investigating the accusations -- threw a  going-away party for Harris.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At the time, I never imagined  Catholic leaders would engage in a widespread practice that protected  alleged child molesters and belittled the victims. I latched onto the  explanation that was least damaging to my belief in the Catholic Church  -- that this was an isolated case of a morally corrupt administration.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And  I was comforted by the advice of a Catholic friend: "Keep your eyes on  the person nailed to the cross, not the priests behind the altar."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;IN  late 2001, I traveled to Salt Lake City to attend a conference of  former Mormons. These people lived mostly in the Mormon Jell-O belt --  Utah, Idaho, Arizona -- so-named because of the plates of Jell-O that  inevitably appear at Mormon gatherings.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They found themselves ostracized in their neighborhoods, schools and careers. Often, they were dead to their own families.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;"If  Mormons associate with you, they think they will somehow become  contaminated and lose their faith too," Suzy Colver told me. "It's  almost as if people who leave the church don't exist."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The people  at the conference were an eclectic bunch: novelists and stay-at-home  moms, entrepreneurs and cartoonists, sex addicts and alcoholics. Some  were depressed, others angry, and a few had successfully moved on. But  they shared a common thread: They wanted to be honest about their lack  of faith and still be loved.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="float" style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://articles.latimes.com/images/pixel.gif" alt="" height="1" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="mod-ctr-in-bt" style="" class="mod-latarticlesadcpc mod-adcpc with-fourth-cpc"&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="float" style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://articles.latimes.com/images/pixel.gif" alt="" height="1" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;In most pockets of Mormon culture, that wasn't going to happen.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Part  of what drew me to Christianity were the radical teachings of Jesus --  to love your enemy, to protect the vulnerable and to lovingly bring lost  sheep back into the fold.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As I reported the story, I wondered how  faithful Mormons -- many of whom rigorously follow other biblical  commands such as giving 10% of their income to the church -- could miss  so badly on one of Jesus' primary lessons?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As part of the  Christian family, I felt shame for my religion. But I still  compartmentalized it as an aberration -- the result of sinful behavior  that infects even the church.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;IN early 2002, I was assigned to  work on the Catholic sex scandal story as it erupted across the nation. I  also continued to attend Sunday Mass and conversion classes on Sunday  mornings and Tuesday nights.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Father Vincent Gilmore -- the young,  intellectually sharp priest teaching the class -- spoke about the sex  scandal and warned us Catholics-to-be not to be poisoned by a relatively  few bad clerics. Otherwise, we'd be committing "spiritual suicide."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As  I began my reporting, I kept that in mind. I also thought that the  victims -- people usually in their 30s, 40s and up -- should have just  gotten over what had happened to them decades before. To me, many of  them were needlessly stuck in the past.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But  then I began going over the documents. And interviewing the victims,  scores of them. I discovered that the term "sexual abuse" is a  euphemism. Most of these children were raped and sodomized by someone  they and their family believed was Christ's representative on Earth.  That's not something an 8-year-old's mind can process; it forever warps a  person's sexuality and spirituality.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Many of these victims were  molested by priests with a history of abusing children. But the bishops  routinely sent these clerics to another parish, and bullied or conned  the victims and their families into silence. The police were almost  never called. In at least a few instances, bishops encouraged molesting  priests to flee the country to escape prosecution.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="float" style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://articles.latimes.com/images/pixel.gif" alt="" height="1" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="mod-ctr-lt-in-top" style="" class="mod-latarticlesadcpc mod-adcpc with-fourth-cpc"&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="mod-a-body-after-first-para" style="" class="mod-latarticlesarticletext mod-articletext"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I  couldn't get the victims' stories or the bishops' lies -- many of them  right there on their own stationery -- out of my head. I had been in  journalism more than two decades and had dealt with murders, rapes,  other violent crimes and tragedies. But this was different -- the  children were so innocent, their parents so faithful, the priests so  sick and bishops so corrupt.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The lifeline Father Vincent had tried to give me began to slip from my hands.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I  sought solace in another belief: that a church's heart is in the pews,  not the pulpits. Certainly the people who were reading my stories would  recoil and, in the end, recapture God's house. Instead, I saw  parishioners reflexively support priests who had molested children by  writing glowing letters to bishops and judges, offering them jobs or  even raising their bail while cursing the victims, often to their faces.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;On  a Sunday morning at a parish in Rancho Santa Margarita, I watched  congregants lobby to name their new parish hall after their longtime  pastor, who had admitted to molesting a boy and who had been barred that  day from the ministry. I felt sick to my stomach that the people of God  wanted to honor an admitted child molester. Only one person in the  crowd, an Orange County sheriff's deputy, spoke out for the victim.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;On  Good Friday 2002, I decided I couldn't belong to the Catholic Church.  Though I had spent a year preparing for it, I didn't go through with the  rite of conversion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I understood that I was witnessing the  failure of humans, not God. But in a way, that was the point. I didn't  see these institutions drenched in God's spirit. Shouldn't religious  organizations, if they were God-inspired and -driven, reflect higher  standards than government, corporations and other groups in society?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I  found an excuse to skip services that Easter. For the next few months, I  attended church only sporadically. Then I stopped going altogether.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;SOME  of the nation's most powerful pastors -- including Billy Graham, Robert  H. Schuller and Greg Laurie -- appear on the Trinity Broadcasting  Network, benefiting from TBN's worldwide reach while looking past the  network's reliance on the "prosperity gospel" to fuel its growth.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;TBN's  creed is that if viewers send money to the network, God will repay them  with great riches and good health. Even people deeply in debt are  encouraged to put donations on credit cards.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;"If you have been  healed or saved or blessed through TBN and have not contributed ... you  are robbing God and will lose your reward in heaven," Paul Crouch,  co-founder of the Orange County-based network, once told viewers.  Meanwhile, Crouch and his wife, Jan, live like tycoons.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="mod-ctr-in-bt" style="" class="mod-latarticlesadcpc mod-adcpc with-fourth-cpc"&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;I  began looking into TBN after receiving some e-mails from former  devotees of the network. Those people had given money to the network in  hopes of getting a financial windfall from God. That didn't work.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;By  then, I started to believe that God was calling me, as he did St.  Francis of Assisi, to "rebuild his church" -- not in some grand way that  would lead to sainthood but by simply reporting on corruption within  the church body.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I spent several years investigating TBN and pored  through stacks of documents -- some made available by appalled  employees -- showing the Crouches eating $180-per-person meals; flying  in a $21-million corporate jet; having access to 30 TBN-owned homes  across the country, among them a pair of Newport Beach mansions and a  ranch in Texas. All paid for with tax-free donor money.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;One of the  stars of TBN and a major fundraiser is the self-proclaimed faith healer  Benny Hinn. I attended one of his two-day "Miracle Crusades" at what  was then the Pond of Anaheim. The arena was packed with sick people  looking for a cure.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My heart broke for the hundreds of people  around me in wheelchairs or in the final stages of terminal diseases,  believing that if God deemed their faith strong enough, they would be  healed that night.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hinn tells his audiences that a generous cash  gift to his ministry will be seen by God as a sign of true faith. This  has worked well for the televangelist, who lives in an oceanfront  mansion in Dana Point, drives luxury cars, flies in private jets and  stays in the best hotels.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At  the crusade, I met Jordie Gibson, 21, who had flown from Calgary,  Canada, to Anaheim because he believed that God, through Hinn, could get  his kidneys to work again.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;He was thrilled to tell me that he had  stopped getting dialysis because Hinn had said people are cured only  when they "step out in faith." The decision enraged his doctors, but  made perfect sense to Gibson. Despite risking his life as a show of  faith, he wasn't cured in Anaheim. He returned to Canada and went back  on dialysis. The crowd was filled with desperate believers like Gibson.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="float" style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://articles.latimes.com/images/pixel.gif" alt="" height="1" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="mod-ctr-lt-in-top" style="" class="mod-latarticlesadcpc mod-adcpc with-fourth-cpc"&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="mod-a-body-after-first-para" style="" class="mod-latarticlesarticletext mod-articletext"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I  tried unsuccessfully to get several prominent mainstream pastors who  appeared on TBN to comment on the prosperity gospel, Hinn's "faith  healing" or the Crouches' lifestyle.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Like the Catholic bishops, I assumed, they didn't want to risk what they had.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;AS  the stories piled up, I began to pray with renewed vigor, but it felt  like I wasn't connecting to God. I started to feel silly even trying.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I  read accounts of St. John of the Cross and his "dark night of the  soul," a time he believed God was testing him by seemingly withdrawing  from his life. Maybe this was my test.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I met with my former  Presbyterian pastor, John Huffman, and told him what I was feeling. I  asked him if I could e-mail him some tough questions about Christianity  and faith and get his answers. He agreed without hesitation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The  questions that I thought I had come to peace with started to bubble up  again. Why do bad things happen to good people? Why does God get credit  for answered prayers but no blame for unanswered ones? Why do we believe  in the miraculous healing power of God when he's never been able to  regenerate a limb or heal a severed spinal chord?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In one e-mail, I  asked John, who had lost a daughter to cancer, why an atheist  businessman prospers and the child of devout Christian parents dies. Why  would a loving God make this impossible for us to understand?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;He sent back a long reply that concluded:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;"My  ultimate affirmation is let God be God and acknowledge that He is in  charge. He knows what I don't know. And frankly, if I'm totally honest  with you, a life of gratitude is one that bows before the Sovereign God  arguing with Him on those things that trouble me, lamenting the losses  of life, but ultimately saying, 'You, God, are infinite; I'm human and  finite.' "&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;John is an excellent pastor, but he couldn't reach me.  For some time, I had tried to push away doubts and reconcile an  all-powerful and infinitely loving God with what I saw, but I was losing  ground. I wondered if my born-again experience at the mountain retreat  was more about fatigue, spiritual longing and emotional vulnerability  than being touched by Jesus.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And I considered another possibility: Maybe God didn't exist.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;TOWARD  the end of my tenure as a religion reporter, I traveled to Nome,  Alaska. Sitting in a tiny visitor's room, I studied the sad, round face  of the Eskimo in front of me and tried to imagine how much he hated  being confined to jail.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Peter "Packy" Kobuk was from a remote  village on St. Michael Island in western Alaska. There natives lived, in  many ways, just as their ancestors did 10,000 years ago. Smells of the  outdoor life hung heavy in his village: the salt air, the strips of  salmon drying on racks, the seaweed washed up on the beach.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="float" style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://articles.latimes.com/images/pixel.gif" alt="" height="1" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="mod-ctr-in-bt" style="" class="mod-latarticlesadcpc mod-adcpc with-fourth-cpc"&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="float" style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://articles.latimes.com/images/pixel.gif" alt="" height="1" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;But  for now, Packy could smell only the disinfectants used to scrub the  concrete floors at the Anvil Mountain Correction Center. Unfortunately,  alcohol and a violent temper had put Packy there many times in his 46  years. For his latest assault, he was serving three months.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The  short, powerfully built man folded his calloused hands on the table. I  was surprised to see a homemade rosary hanging from his neck, the blue  beads held together by string from a fishing net.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I had come from  Southern California to report on a generation of Eskimo boys who had  been molested by a Catholic missionary. All of the now-grown Eskimos I  had interviewed over the past week had lost their faith. In fact,  several of them confessed that they fantasized daily about burning down  the village church, where the unspeakable acts took place.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But there was Packy with his rosary.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;"Why do you still believe?" I asked.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;"It's  not God's work what happened to me," he said softly, running his  fingers along the beads. "They were breaking God's commandments -- even  the people who didn't help. They weren't loving their neighbors as  themselves."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;He said he regularly got down on his knees in his jail cell to pray.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;"A  lot of people make fun of me, asking if the Virgin Mary is going to  rescue me," Packy said. "Well, I've gotten helped more times from the  Virgin Mary through intercession than from anyone else. I won't stop. My  children need my prayers."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Tears spilled from his eyes. Packy's faith, though severely tested, had survived.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I looked at him with envy. Where he found comfort, I was finding emptiness.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;IN  the summer of 2005, I reported from a Multnomah County, Ore., courtroom  on the story of an unemployed mother -- impregnated by a seminary  student 13 years earlier -- who was trying to get increased child  support for her sickly 12-year-old son.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The boy's father, Father  Arturo Uribe, took the witness stand. The priest had never seen or  talked with his son. He even had trouble properly pronouncing the kid's  name. Uribe confidently offered the court a simple reason as to why he  couldn't pay more than $323 a month in child support.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="float" style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://articles.latimes.com/images/pixel.gif" alt="" height="1" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="mod-ctr-lt-in-top" style="" class="mod-latarticlesadcpc mod-adcpc"&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;"The only thing I own are my clothes," he told the judge.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;His  defense -- orchestrated by a razor-sharp attorney paid for by his  religious order -- boiled down to this: I'm a Roman Catholic priest,  I've taken a vow of poverty, and child-support laws can't touch me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The  boy's mother, Stephanie Collopy, couldn't afford a lawyer. She stumbled  badly acting as her own attorney. It went on for three hours.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;"It  didn't look that great," Stephanie said afterward, wiping tears from  her eyes. "It didn't sound that great ... but at least I stood up for  myself."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The judge ruled in the favor of Uribe, then pastor of a  large parish in Whittier. After the hearing, when the priest's attorney  discovered I had been there, she ran back into the courtroom and  unsuccessfully tried to get the judge to seal the case. I could see why  the priest's lawyer would try to cover it up. People would be shocked at  how callously the church dealt with a priest's illegitimate son who  needed money for food and medicine.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My problem was that none of that surprised me anymore.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As I walked into the long twilight of a Portland summer evening, I felt used up and numb.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My  soul, for lack of a better term, had lost faith long ago -- probably  around the time I stopped going to church. My brain, which had been in  denial, had finally caught up.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Clearly, I saw now that belief in  God, no matter how grounded, requires at some point a leap of faith.  Either you have the gift of faith or you don't. It's not a choice. It  can't be willed into existence. And there's no faking it if you're  honest about the state of your soul.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sitting in a park across the  street from the courthouse, I called my wife on a cellphone. I told her I  was putting in for a new beat at the paper.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="mailto:william.lobdell@latimes.com"&gt;william.lobdell@latimes.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7322511481612577767-7598892191611368338?l=badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/feeds/7598892191611368338/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/2011/10/reporter-loses-his-religious-faith.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7322511481612577767/posts/default/7598892191611368338'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7322511481612577767/posts/default/7598892191611368338'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/2011/10/reporter-loses-his-religious-faith.html' title='Reporter Loses His Religious Faith'/><author><name>Bad News</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12774679970522264882</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7322511481612577767.post-8314601001327750426</id><published>2011-09-29T09:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-29T09:45:05.122-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Bishop ordered to have equality training over gay discrimination</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; 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background-color: rgb(248, 241, 216); color: rgb(102, 102, 102); "&gt;The Times&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 21px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 21px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;February 9, 2008&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   &gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 21px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 13px; background-color: rgb(248, 241, 216); "&gt;Hannah Fletcher&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   &gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 21px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 11px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;&lt;span class="small" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.1em; line-height: 1.2em; "&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;&lt;div id="region-column1-layout2" style="display: inline; float: left; width: 385px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 15px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; overflow-x: visible; overflow-y: visible; "&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class="article-author" style="border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(217, 217, 217); padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 14px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="related-article-links" style="font-size: 11px; line-height: 11px; "&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1.2em; line-height: 1.2em; "&gt;A Church of England Bishop who lost a discrimination case against a gay Christian has been ordered to undergo equal opportunities training.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1.2em; line-height: 1.2em; "&gt;Cardiff Employment Tribunal ruled that the Bishop of Hereford, the Right Rev Anthony Priddis, had discriminated against John Reaney, 42, by blocking his appointment as a church youth worker because of his sexuality.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1.2em; line-height: 1.2em; "&gt;In its final judgment yesterday the tribunal ordered the Bishop, 60, to pay Mr Reaney £47,345 in compensation. The ruling also stated that “staff [in the diocese of Hereford] involved in recruitment should receive equal opportunities training”.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1.2em; line-height: 1.2em; "&gt;A spokesman for the gay rights charity Stonewall told &lt;i&gt;The Times&lt;/i&gt;: “There is only one member of staff involved in this case, so that is them saying the Bishop should receive equal opportunities training.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1.2em; line-height: 1.2em; "&gt;He said that Stonewall, which funded the claim by Mr Reaney, had written to the office of the Bishop offering to help him with the training.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1.2em; line-height: 1.2em; "&gt;Ben Summerskill, the chief executive of Stonewall, said that this would involve helping the Bishop, who was appointed the 104th Bishop of Hereford in June 2004, to develop an understanding of how to deal with people from minority communities as well as explaining to him that asking intimate questions about people’s private lives is not an appropriate thing to do during a job interview.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1.2em; line-height: 1.2em; "&gt;During the tribunal Mr Reaney described how in a private, two-hour interview with the Bishop he had been questioned about his personal life, previous relationships and sexuality. Despite being recommended for the job by a diocesan interview panel the Bishop rejected Mr Reaney’s application because, he said, “Mr Reaney’s lifestyle had the potential to impact on the spiritual, moral and ethical leadership within the Diocese.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1.2em; line-height: 1.2em; "&gt;Mr Summerskill said: “Normally training would take half a day or a day but [the Bishop] might need slightly more intensive work. The key priority is not just the compensation. It is ensuring that no one else is put in this incredibly humiliating position.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1.2em; line-height: 1.2em; "&gt;Anni Holden, the spokesman for the Bishop, said yesterday that he would not be accepting the offer of help with training from Stonewall. She said that Stonewall was completely out of order and that the diocese had already fulfilled the requirement by the tribunal for equal opportunities training. “We have an HR [human resources] person who will be present at all recruitment interviews and will give advice before and during interviews if necessary,” she said. “The HR person will implement equal opportunities training as appropriate and the tribunal is happy with that.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1.2em; line-height: 1.2em; "&gt;Mr Reaney, from Llandudno, Wales, works for the Weston Spirit charity. He left his job as a youth worker in the Diocese of Chester in 2002 after he was asked to choose between his partner and his job.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1.2em; line-height: 1.2em; "&gt;Carolyn Salter, from Wellingborough, who had Mr Reaney as her youth worker when she was a teenager, described him as a very good role model to Christian children. “He was everything the Church could want in a youth leader and his sexuality should not have been an issue,” she said. “Attitudes like that of Bishop Priddis have no place in the church or in this century.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7322511481612577767-8314601001327750426?l=badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/feeds/8314601001327750426/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/2011/09/bishop-ordered-to-have-equality.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7322511481612577767/posts/default/8314601001327750426'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7322511481612577767/posts/default/8314601001327750426'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/2011/09/bishop-ordered-to-have-equality.html' title='Bishop ordered to have equality training over gay discrimination'/><author><name>Bad News</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12774679970522264882</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7322511481612577767.post-3988385949153220560</id><published>2011-07-23T06:13:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-23T06:15:12.245-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Archbishop Diarmuid Martin 'ashamed' at church failures</title><content type='html'>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-14230086&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="story-body"&gt;              &lt;span class="story-date"&gt;     &lt;span class="date"&gt;21 July 2011&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="time-text"&gt;Last updated at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="time"&gt;09:21 GMT&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;   &lt;div id="page-bookmark-links-head" class="share-help"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;       &lt;h1 class="story-header"&gt;Archbishop Diarmuid Martin 'ashamed' at church failures&lt;/h1&gt;                                                               &lt;div class="videoInStoryC"&gt;     &lt;div id="emp-14234488-29968" class="emp page-bookmark-link-aware"&gt;                    &lt;noscript&gt;             &lt;/noscript&gt;                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 &lt;div style="height: 180px; width: 320px; 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        &lt;/div&gt;                                               &lt;p class="caption"&gt; Dr Diarmuid Martin said he was 'ashamed' of the church&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;            &lt;/div&gt;                           &lt;p class="introduction" id="story_continues_1"&gt;The  Archbishop of Dublin said there are groups in the Vatican and the Irish  hierarchy trying to undermine child protection measures.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Speaking on RTE on Wednesday, Dr Diarmuid Martin said there were systems in place that were ignored. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;His comments come after Irish Prime Minister Enda Kenny launched an attack in parliament on the Catholic Church.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Mr Kenny said the recent Cloyne Report into allegations of priest sex abuse showed change was needed. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;In an unprecedented attack, the taoiseach said the historic  relationship between church and state in Ireland could not be the same  again and the report exposed the "elitism, dysfunction, disconnection,  and narcissism that dominated the Vatican". &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Dr Martin said he was "impressed by the emotion that the taoiseach brought into this".&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;He said he was also "angry, ashamed and appalled" by those  "who felt they were able to play tricks" and "by anybody who does that,  whether they be in the Irish church, the Vatican or anybody else who  faces child protection".&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;span class="cross-head"&gt;'Miffed and angry'&lt;/span&gt;        &lt;p&gt;"I'm very disappointed and annoyed. What do you do when you've got systems in place and somebody ignores them?" he said.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"What do you do when you have got groups either in the  Vatican or in Ireland who try to undermine what is being done or simply  refuse to understand what is being done."&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Dr Martin said he had delivered over 70,000 documents to the  Murphy Commission and "reported every case that I've ever known to the  gardai".&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Derry priest, Fr Michael Canny, said the actions of the Vatican had been a source of frustration for him.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"Many times I have felt frustrated. Some of my colleagues are actively involved with it," he said.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"The Cloyne report has really undermined them and they do  feel miffed and angry about this because the carpet has been pulled  under their feet of all the good that's been done here over the last  number of years."&lt;/p&gt;                  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7322511481612577767-3988385949153220560?l=badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/feeds/3988385949153220560/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/2011/07/archbishop-diarmuid-martin-ashamed-at.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7322511481612577767/posts/default/3988385949153220560'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7322511481612577767/posts/default/3988385949153220560'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/2011/07/archbishop-diarmuid-martin-ashamed-at.html' title='Archbishop Diarmuid Martin &apos;ashamed&apos; at church failures'/><author><name>Bad News</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12774679970522264882</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7322511481612577767.post-4126939485948187706</id><published>2011-07-20T14:14:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-20T14:16:20.810-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Irish PM in unprecedented attack on Vatican</title><content type='html'>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-14224199&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;            &lt;div id="print-advert"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;            &lt;div class="story-body"&gt;              &lt;span class="story-date"&gt;     &lt;span class="date"&gt;20 July 2011&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="time-text"&gt;Last updated at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="time"&gt;14:42 GMT&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;   &lt;div id="page-bookmark-links-head" class="share-help"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;       &lt;h1 class="story-header"&gt;Irish PM in unprecedented attack on Vatican &lt;/h1&gt;                                                      &lt;div class="caption body-narrow-width"&gt;   &lt;img src="http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/54165000/jpg/_54165544_kenny.jpg" alt="Irish Prime Minister Enda Kenny" width="304" height="171" /&gt;      &lt;span style="width: 304px;"&gt;Enda Kenny said the relationship between church and state in Ireland could not be the same again&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class="story-feature related narrow"&gt;   &lt;a class="hidden" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-14224199#story_continues_1"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;                       &lt;p class="introduction" id="story_continues_1"&gt;Irish Prime Minister Enda Kenny has launched an unprecedented attack on the Catholic Church in parliament. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;He said the recent Cloyne Report into how allegations of sex  abuse by priests in Cork had been covered up showed change was urgently  needed. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Mr Kenny said the historic relationship between church and state in Ireland could not be the same again.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;He said the report exposed the elitism, dysfunction, disconnection, and narcissism that dominated the  Vatican. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"The rape and torture of children were downplayed or  'managed' to uphold instead the primacy of the institution, its power,  standing and 'reputation'," the taoiseach said.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;span class="cross-head"&gt;'Unprecedented'&lt;/span&gt;        &lt;p&gt;"The revelations of the Cloyne Report have brought the  government, Irish Catholics and the Vatican to an unprecedented  juncture."&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt; Opposition leader Michael Martin said that when he met the  Papal Nuncio after the Murphy report into the cover-up of abuse in the  Dublin diocese in 2009, he told him the government expected the full  cooperation of the Vatican into the Cloyne inquiry. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;However, he said, the Vatican chose to focus on the interests  of the church rather than the children abused by its clergy and  shielded by its leaders.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;During the debate, the church was called upon to publish the  audits currently being sent to every Catholic diocese in the country. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Sinn Fein spokesperson on health and children Caoimhghin  O'Caolain said the government should consider coordinating with the  Northern Ireland Executive on any future inquiries - particularly as  four of the Catholic dioceses straddle the border. &lt;/p&gt;                  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7322511481612577767-4126939485948187706?l=badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/feeds/4126939485948187706/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/2011/07/irish-pm-in-unprecedented-attack-on.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7322511481612577767/posts/default/4126939485948187706'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7322511481612577767/posts/default/4126939485948187706'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/2011/07/irish-pm-in-unprecedented-attack-on.html' title='Irish PM in unprecedented attack on Vatican'/><author><name>Bad News</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12774679970522264882</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7322511481612577767.post-398351812944573989</id><published>2011-07-15T11:19:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-15T11:22:46.763-07:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 16px; "&gt;&lt;span class="date" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; font-weight: bold; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-14143822"&gt;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-14143822&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 16px; "&gt;&lt;span class="date" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; font-weight: bold; "&gt;13 July 2011&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 16px; "&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 16px; "&gt;&lt;span class="time-text" style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; "&gt;Last updated at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 16px; "&gt;&lt;span class="time" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; "&gt;16:08 GMT&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; font-size: 32px; font-weight: bold; letter-spacing: -1px; line-height: 34px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; font-size: 32px; font-weight: bold; letter-spacing: -1px; line-height: 34px; "&gt;Cloyne report: A detailed guide&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; "&gt;&lt;div class="caption body-narrow-width" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; position: relative; clear: both; float: right; display: inline; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: -160px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 16px; "&gt;&lt;img src="http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/54026000/jpg/_54026061_cloyne.jpg" width="304" height="171" alt="Cloyne" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; -webkit-user-select: none; position: relative; font-size: 13px; letter-spacing: 0px; font-weight: normal; font-style: italic; " /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; display: block; width: 304px; "&gt;The Bishop's Residence in Cloyne, County Cork&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class="introduction" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; font-weight: bold; "&gt;The &lt;a href="http://www.cloynediocese.ie/" style="color: rgb(31, 79, 130); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Roman Catholic Diocese of Cloyne &lt;/a&gt;is in the Republic of Ireland, and covers most of mid, east and north Cork. Its centre is the picturesque costal town of Cobh, which used to be known as Queenstown, from where millions emigrated around the time of the Irish Famine. Led by Judge Yvonne Maguire, the Cloyne report examines child safe-guarding measures within the diocese up until 2009. Here's a detailed guide of its main findings:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2 class="section-header" id="heading-1" style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 7px; padding-right: 8px; padding-bottom: 7px; padding-left: 8px; font-size: 13px; clear: both; display: block; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(209, 112, 14); font-weight: bold; "&gt;What is the Cloyne report?&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The report (officially known as the Commission of Investigation, Dublin Archdiocese, Catholic Diocese of Cloyne) has examined how allegations of sexual abuse of children in the diocese were dealt with by the church and state.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Led by Judge Yvonne Murphy, the same commission produced a report into the Dublin diocese in November 2009.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The commission's remit was extended to include Cloyne in January 2009 after a report by the church's own child protection watchdog - &lt;a href="http://www.safeguarding.ie/" style="color: rgb(31, 79, 130); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold; "&gt;the National National Board of Safeguarding Children (NBSC)&lt;/a&gt; - was published in December 2008.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Commissioners were not tasked with establishing whether child sexual abuse took place or whether there was a basis for suspicions or concerns.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The inquiry was ordered to look at child protection practices in the diocese and how it dealt with complaints against 19 priests made from 1996, the year in which the Catholic Church put in place detailed procedures for dealing with child sexual abuse.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2 class="section-header" id="heading-2" style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 7px; padding-right: 8px; padding-bottom: 7px; padding-left: 8px; font-size: 1em; clear: both; display: block; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(209, 112, 14); font-weight: bold; "&gt;What is different about this report?&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;This is the fourth report into abuse in the Catholic Church in Ireland, after the diocese of Ferns report in 2005, the Ryan report detailing abuse in residential institutions in May 2009 and the Dublin Archdiocese report in November 2009.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;This 400 page report is different because of the more recent timeframe; there were clear guidelines in place when these allegations of abuse were being made.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;It will be difficult reading for Bishop John Magee who stood down in March 2009 after serving as bishop of Cloyne since 1987.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2 class="section-header" id="heading-3" style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 7px; padding-right: 8px; padding-bottom: 7px; padding-left: 8px; font-size: 13px; clear: both; display: block; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(209, 112, 14); font-weight: bold; "&gt;What does the report say?&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;ul style="font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; "&gt;&lt;li style="font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 16px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; background-position: -1200px 5px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); "&gt;The &lt;a href="http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/Cloyne_Rpt" style="color: rgb(31, 79, 130); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold; "&gt;report&lt;/a&gt; found that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;Bishop John Magee falsely told the government and the health service that his diocese was reporting all abuse allegations to authorities. It also found that the bishop deliberately misled another inquiry and his own advisors by creating two different accounts of a meeting with a priest suspecting of abusing a child, one for the Vatican and the other for diocesan files&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 16px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; background-position: -1200px 5px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); "&gt;It discovered that, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;contrary to repeated assertions on its part, the Diocese of Cloyne did not implement the procedures set out in the church protocols for dealing with allegations of child sexual abuse. It said the greatest failure was that no complaints, except one in 1996, were reported to the health authorities until 2008.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul style="font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; "&gt;&lt;li style="font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 16px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; background-position: -1200px 5px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;In one case outlined in the report the diocese's second-in-command, Monsignor Denis O'Callaghan, withheld the identity of a perpetrator from the authorities and attempted to have a particular garda officer investigate it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul style="font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; "&gt;&lt;li style="font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 16px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; background-position: -1200px 5px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); "&gt;It said the disturbing findings are compounded by the fact that the commission found that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;the Vatican's response to the church guidelines was entirely unhelpful and gave comfort and support to those who dissented from the guidelines.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt; It said this was "wholly unacceptable".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 16px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; background-position: -1200px 5px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); "&gt;The commission said that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;the Papal Nuncio replied to a request for information relevant to its investigation by saying he was "unable to assist you in his matter"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;. The Nunciature said it did not determine the handling of cases of sexual abuse in Ireland and would not be in a position to assist.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 16px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; background-position: -1200px 5px; "&gt;While the commission considered that most gardai who were involved in investigating the complaints outlined in the report carried out their tasks well and did so while treating the complainants with compassion and dignity, the commission are very concerned about the approach adopted by gardai in three cases. The report is to be refered to the&lt;a href="http://www.gardaombudsman.ie/" style="color: rgb(31, 79, 130); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Garda Ombudsman&lt;/a&gt; to examine these cases.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 16px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; background-position: -1200px 5px; "&gt;The Department of Health claimed privilege over a number of documents relevant to the investigation. The report noted that the Diocese of Cloyne, in particular Archbishop Clifford and Bishop Magee, fully co-operated as did the gardai and the health service.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; "&gt;&lt;li style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 16px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; background-image: url(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/view/1_4_15/cream/hi/shared/img/story_sprite.gif); background-position: -1200px 5px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; "&gt;The Commission said the it offered its "deep regret and sympathy" to the victims of "this awful abuse". It continued "but those things alone amount to little more than rhetoric unless, once and for all, we embark on a comprehensive course of action to make sure that the state is doing all it can to safeguard children."&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;h2 class="section-header" id="heading-4" style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 7px; padding-right: 8px; padding-bottom: 7px; padding-left: 8px; font-size: 13px; clear: both; display: block; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(209, 112, 14); font-weight: bold; "&gt;How has the government responded?&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The Irish government said it expressed its "deep sorrow" to all the survivors of abuse and "for any past failings on the part of the state and its agencies". The Minister for Justice Alan Shatter has published a new bill, that if passed would make it a crime to withhold information about a serious offence against a child or an intellectually disabled person. If found guilty of breaking the Heads of the Criminal Justice Bill a person could be jailed for five years.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Minister for Children, Frances Fitzgerald, said she plans to publish a new "Children First" national guidance document on Friday. She said a raft of measures will be in place, including imprisonment and fines, for failure to comply with the child protection code.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;She said: "Never again will someone be allowed to place the protection of their institution above the protection of children."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2 class="section-header" id="heading-5" style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 7px; padding-right: 8px; padding-bottom: 7px; padding-left: 8px; font-size: 13px; clear: both; display: block; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(209, 112, 14); font-weight: bold; "&gt;How have the police responded?&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The Garda Commissioner Martin Callinan has appointed Assistant Commissioner John O'Mahoney to examine the report to see whether, in addition to action already taken, any further action can be taken against the abusers referred to in it. He will also look at how complaints were handled and investigated by church and state authorities.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Mr Callinan said: "It is a matter of regret to me that people did not receive the appropriate attention and action from the gardai to which they were entitled."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2 class="section-header" id="heading-6" style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 7px; padding-right: 8px; padding-bottom: 7px; padding-left: 8px; font-size: 13px; clear: both; display: block; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(209, 112, 14); font-weight: bold; "&gt;How has the Catholic Church responded?&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Cardinal Sean Brady said the publication of the report was "another dark day in the history of the church" and expressed his shame and sorrow at what happened in Cloyne. Cardinal Brady said the environment for children within the church is a totally different one to that of the past.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;He said all dioceses now have safeguarding personnel in each of the 1,386 parishes and that all allegations of abuse have been reported to the statutory authorities in Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Monsignor Denis O'Callaghan, who was criticised for trying to protect an accused priest's identity, said he was sorry that he became emotionally and pastorally drawn to the plight of the cleric. 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font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The Commission of Investigation into the Diocese of Cloyne investigated how allegations against 19 priests were dealt with between 1996 and 2009.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Its &lt;a href="http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/Cloyne_Rpt" style="color: rgb(31, 79, 130); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold; "&gt;report&lt;/a&gt;, published on Wednesday, found Bishop John Magee falsely told the Irish government he was reporting all abuse allegations to authorities.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The Catholic Church and Bishop Magee have apologised.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The leader of Ireland's Catholics, Cardinal Sean Brady, said it was another "dark day in the history of the response of church leaders to the cry of children abused by church personnel".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;"The findings of this report confirm that grave errors of judgement were made and serious failures of leadership occurred," he said.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;"This is deplorable and totally unacceptable."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;In a statement, Bishop Magee said he apologised to those affected for his "failure to ensure that they were fully supported and responded to in their time of need".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;In one case described in the report, the diocese's second-in-command, Monsignor Denis O'Callaghan, was said to have withheld the identity of a perpetrator from the authorities and attempted to have an Irish police officer investigate the case.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span class="cross-head" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; display: block; font-weight: bold; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 1.231em; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; "&gt;'Inadequate'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The police officer was found to have correctly disregarded the request.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Monsignor O'Callaghan said he was sorry that in responding to allegations of abuse he had sometimes become "emotionally and pastorally drawn to the plight of the accused priest".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;He said this was "to the detriment of the pastoral response I intended to make to complainants".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;Bishop Magee was one of the 19 priests identified by the commission.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The Cloyne report, which runs to 400 pages, said there were concerns about Bishop Magee's interaction with a 17-year-old boy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;"The commission regrets that it has not been possible to report the case involving concerns about Bishop Magee without identifying him," the report said.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;"Concerns were expressed about his interaction with a 17-year-old boy."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;It said the teenager, who had been contemplating joining the priesthood, was concerned that "the behaviour of the bishop towards him, which had not perturbed him at the time, was, on reflection, disquieting".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;However, the report said it was satisfied that this case had been dealt with appropriately.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="story-feature wide " style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; position: relative; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: -160px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 16px; width: 304px; float: right; display: inline; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; clear: right; "&gt;&lt;a class="hidden" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-14136923#story_continues_2" style="color: rgb(31, 79, 130); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold; position: absolute; top: -5000px; left: -5000px; "&gt;Continue reading the main story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;h2 style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 11px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 12px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.231em; border-top-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(216, 216, 216); border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(216, 216, 216); font-weight: bold; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p id="story_continues_2" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The Newry-born Bishop Magee stepped aside in 2009 after an earlier report criticised his handling of abuse allegations.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;The latest report, which was published by Justice Minister Alan Shatter and Children's Minister Frances Fitzgerald, said the response of the diocese to allegations of child sexual abuse for the period of 1996 to 2008 was "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;inadequate and inappropriate&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;It said it was a "remarkable fact" that Bishop Magee had taken "little or no active interest" in the management of clerical sexual abuse cases until 2008. This was 12 years after the procedures on how to deal with such matters were implemented by the church.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;It added that Bishop Magee had to "a certain extent, detached himself from the day to day management of child sexual abuse cases".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;"Bishop Magee was head of the diocese and cannot avoid his responsibility by blaming subordinates whom he wholly failed to supervise," the report said.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;In his statement, Bishop Magee said he now realised he should have taken "a much firmer role" in ensuring the implementation of the church procedures published in 1996.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;"I accept in its entirety the commission's view that the primary responsibility for the failure to fully implement the church procedures in the diocese lay with me," he added.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span class="cross-head" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; display: block; font-weight: bold; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 1.231em; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; "&gt;Complaints&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The commission said it was aware of some 40 people who may have been affected by clerical abuse in the diocese.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;All but two complaints came from people who were adults at the time the complaint was made.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;The report said between 1995 and 2005 there were 15 complaints against clergy in the diocese which &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;should have been reported&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The most serious lapse was the failure to report two cases in which the alleged victims were minors at the time the complaint was made.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;It also said there was no communication with a neighbouring diocese when a priest who had retired because of complaints went to live there.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;However, there was no case in which the diocese moved priests against whom allegations had been made.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;A number of priests whom allegations were made against were "retired".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;The Irish justice minister said on Wednesday that he intended to introduce a new criminal offence with up to five years in prison for anyone who does not declare information about the abuse of a child.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;He said in future, priests would not be excused for withholding information about alleged child abuse even if it was given to them during confession.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The inquiry was set up by the Irish government in January 2009 following a report published the previous month.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;It was conducted by the National Board for Safeguarding Children (NBSC) - a body set up by the Catholic Church to oversee child protection policies.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;It found child protection practices in the diocese were "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;inadequate and in some respects dangerous&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; 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border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(216, 216, 216); font-weight: bold; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; "&gt;Irish President Mary McAleese on Cloyne report&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 13px; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;"Clearly, an immediate priority today must be the abused victims, ensuring that they receive all necessary support and reassurance in the wake of the publication of this distressing and damning report.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 13px; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); "&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;It is a matter of grave concern that the report's findings show that, up to 2008, the Cloyne Diocese failed in large measure to comply with the Catholic Church's own 1996 guidelines on clerical child sex abuse&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 13px; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;"Had these guidelines been fully honoured and rigorously adhered to (as the public had been led to believe they would), this report would never have been necessary and children need not have been rendered so vulnerable.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; 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font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Roman Catholic bishops in the Philippines are to return sport utility vehicles (SUVs) received as gifts from government funds, an inquiry has heard.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Senators are investigating claims that illegal gifts bought with state lottery money were given to the bishops by the last government to win their support.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; 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font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;At the Senate inquiry in Manila on Wednesday, bishops turned over four SUVs and said others were in the process of being returned.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The bishops apologised for any pain caused to their followers or the Church, but insisted the donations were only to help them reach isolated communities.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span class="cross-head" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; display: block; font-weight: bold; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 1.231em; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; "&gt;'Sincere sadness'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;"Even if it is not unlawful and even if it is not unconstitutional, we believe that it is important for us to clear everything in the air and return the vehicles," Archbishop Orlando Quevedo of the southern Cotabato diocese told the inquiry.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;He expressed "sincere sadness" on behalf of the Church that many Catholics were "confused, disturbed and even scandalised".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The head of the Philippine state lottery, Margie Juico, earlier told the hearing that seven bishops received gifts during former President Gloria Arroyo's term in office.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Critics have accused Mrs Arroyo of using donations to try to secure the bishops' support. She stepped down last year after nine years in power.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Mrs Juico said an audit had showed that at least 6.9m pesos ($158,600; £98,300) in charity funds were used to buy vehicles at the request of several bishops.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Bishop Juan de Dios Pueblos, of southern Butuan city, admitted that he wrote to Mrs Arroyo to ask for a sport utility vehicle costing 1.7m pesos for his 66th birthday but said it was to help him reach remote areas on Mindanao Island.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;He acknowledged that the move "was a lapse in judgment on my part" that has "cast a shadow of uncertainty on my dignity as a bishop and my moral ascendancy as a leader of the Catholic Church."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;During the hearing, dozens of protesters held placards outside the Senate, some wearing bishops' frocks and cardboard replicas of SUVs around their waists.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;"I need my SUV to reach moral high ground," one placard read.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7322511481612577767-265627034938202830?l=badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/feeds/265627034938202830/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/2011/07/philippine-bishops-to-return-donated.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7322511481612577767/posts/default/265627034938202830'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7322511481612577767/posts/default/265627034938202830'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/2011/07/philippine-bishops-to-return-donated.html' title='Philippine bishops to return donated SUVs'/><author><name>Bad News</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12774679970522264882</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7322511481612577767.post-2392914804565548326</id><published>2011-05-29T11:08:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-05-29T11:12:01.491-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Spain investigates tragedy of 'stolen' newborn babies</title><content type='html'>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12886441&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="story-body"&gt;              &lt;span class="story-date"&gt;     &lt;span class="date"&gt;31 March 2011&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="time-text"&gt;Last updated at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="time"&gt;00:48 GMT&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;   &lt;div id="page-bookmark-links-head" class="share-help"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;     &lt;h1 class="story-header"&gt;Spain investigates tragedy of 'stolen' newborn babies&lt;/h1&gt;                                                               &lt;span class="byline"&gt;               &lt;span class="byline-name"&gt;By Sarah Rainsford&lt;/span&gt;     &lt;span class="byline-title"&gt;BBC News, Madrid&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;                    &lt;div class="caption body-narrow-width"&gt;   &lt;img src="http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51898000/jpg/_51898515_antonio4.jpg" alt="Antonio Barroso at the office of Anadir, an association set-up to support suspected victims of alleged baby trade" height="405" width="304" /&gt;      &lt;span style="width: 304px;"&gt;Antonio Barroso has been told he was bought at birth&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class="story-feature related narrow"&gt;   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;                       &lt;p class="introduction" id="story_continues_1"&gt;Antonio  Barroso always suspected that something in his family wasn't quite  right. He was 38 when the secret was finally revealed: his parents had  bought him as a baby.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"I discovered my whole life was a lie," Antonio said. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;The truth came out during the deathbed confession of a family  friend. Like Antonio's parents, he and his wife had been unable to  conceive. Both couples had bought their babies from a nun, for "more  than the price of a flat".&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Antonio's mother has since confirmed the story and DNA tests  have proved he has no genetic link to the couple who raised him. His  birth certificate had been falsified.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;span class="cross-head"&gt;'Illicit trade'&lt;/span&gt;        &lt;p&gt;"I want to know the truth," Antonio said, flicking through  snapshots of his childhood, "To find out who I am and where I come from.  I want to know what happened and who was responsible. And if people  need to be punished, they should be punished".&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Antonio soon discovered other cases similar to his own, and signs of an illicit trade in newborn babies.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;At the support group he set up in Vilanova i la Geltru, his  home town on the Catalan coast, the phone rarely stops ringing. The desk  is piled high with letters from Spaniards who fear they could be  victims of a criminal network, thought to have operated until the 1990s.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div class="story-feature narrow"&gt;  &lt;a class="hidden" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12886441#story_continues_2"&gt;Continue reading the main story&lt;/a&gt; &lt;h2 class="quote"&gt;“&lt;span&gt;Start Quote&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p class="first-child"&gt;We were starting to make a family and  they destroyed that completely. I have to meet my daughter. I want to  tell her, girl, I'm your Dad”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;span class="endquote"&gt;End Quote&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span class="quote-credit"&gt;Salvador Martin&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span class="quote-credit-title"&gt;Father, who believes his daughter was stolen from him&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;ul class="links-list"&gt;&lt;li&gt;   &lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12885238" class="quote-link"&gt;In pictures: Spanish 'baby trade'&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;      &lt;p id="story_continues_2"&gt;For some, that suspicion is  strengthened by Spain's history. After the civil war, children were  removed from Republican prisoners and given to supporters of General  Franco's dictatorship. Historians estimate up to 30,000 children were  affected by the 'ideological cleansing'.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;span class="cross-head"&gt;'Baby-theft'&lt;/span&gt;        &lt;p&gt;"In the 1950s, that practice was converted into mafia  business," said Enrique Vila, a lawyer helping Antonio's support group,  Anadir. "The goal became money. They took children from anyone, to  sell."&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;The lawyer believes some babies were abandoned by unmarried  Catholic girls or prostitutes and others were stolen after doctors told  mothers that their newborns had died.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Ana Josefa Escabia died several hours after giving birth in  Terrassa in 1975. Her husband clearly remembers seeing his daughter  alive. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"I saw her born," Salvador Martin said, his eyes welling with tears, 36 years later. "She was gorgeous, just like her sister."&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;But doctors later told Salvador his baby had been stillborn. A sealed coffin was delivered to the cemetery.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div class="caption body-narrow-width"&gt;   &lt;img src="http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51879000/jpg/_51879028_anayounger.jpg" alt="Salvador Martin and wife Ana Josefa, in 1970s, just before she became pregnant " height="171" width="304" /&gt;      &lt;span style="width: 304px;"&gt;Ana Josefa Escabia and her husband were told that their baby was stillborn&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;       &lt;p&gt;Last December, tormented by doubts, Salvador decided to open  the family vault. DNA tests revealed the baby inside was a boy, and no  relation. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Salvador is now desperate to know what happened to his  daughter. No other baby was buried in Terrassa on that day. He is  convinced his child was stolen.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;span class="cross-head"&gt;DNA database&lt;/span&gt;        &lt;p&gt;"It's not like a bag of oranges that you sell. It's a child,"  he said, holding a picture of Ana shortly before she became pregnant.  "We were starting to make a family and they destroyed that completely. I  have to meet my daughter. I want to tell her, girl, I'm your Dad".&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div class="caption body-narrow-width"&gt;   &lt;img src="http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51938000/jpg/_51938890_lolli-still-2-jpg.jpg" alt="Dolores Diaz Cerpa, one of many mothers who is searching for a child she believes was stolen" height="171" width="304" /&gt;      &lt;span style="width: 304px;"&gt;Dolores Diaz Cerpa believes her son was stolen from her&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;       &lt;p&gt;That longing to be reunited has led Anadir to create a DNA  database. When a scientist recently visited Seville to take swabs, the  small hall was  packed with people convinced that their children had  been stolen.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Among those queuing nervously was 72-year-old Dolores Diaz  Cerpa. She gave birth in 1973 and says when she awoke from surgery she  saw 2 cots.  A nurse said she'd had twins. But the boy was then removed  and when Dolores woke up again she was told she'd had a girl.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"I always believed I'd had two children and they took one off  me," Dolores said. "I would dream of him and wake up wondering how he  was."&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;That conviction was compounded in 1995 when she requested her  medical records and was sent papers for a baby boy. Dolores is entering  her DNA in the database in the hope that the child she's so sure she  gave birth to is alive.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"If he knows he's adopted, I just want him to know I didn't  abandon him. He was stolen," she says, echoing the view of many mothers  here.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Anadir has more than 800 members now. Other groups have more.  Most are women who never saw their babies' bodies, never believed they  had died and can find no record of their burials at cemeteries.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div class="caption"&gt;   &lt;img src="http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51884000/jpg/_51884117_antoniocourt.jpg" alt="One of many Spanish courts now investigating allegations of a baby trafficking network" height="282" width="226" /&gt;      &lt;span style="width: 226px;"&gt;Antonio Barroso has been asked to make a statement in court&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;       &lt;p&gt;It is possible many of the  children are really dead, that  there are simply mistakes in the paperwork, or that mothers are  confused, still raw from their loss.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;span class="cross-head"&gt;Court summons&lt;/span&gt;        &lt;p&gt;But signs of a more sinister story are mounting.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;A former nurse has claimed she witnessed baby-thefts in  Madrid. A cemetery worker in Granada told the BBC he had handled child  coffins that were suspiciously light, and now Anadir says a woman who  was told her child had died has just been reunited with her daughter in  Barcelona. The family have not spoken publicly.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Spain's courts are certainly taking the claims seriously. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Anadir delivered details of 261 cases of suspected baby-theft  to the state prosecutor in January. Regional prosecutors have been  ordered to investigate. Across Spain hundreds of people are now being  summoned to make statements. New cases are being reported all the time.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;After years of fighting to get the courts to listen, Antonio  Barroso has also been called to see the prosecutor. For him this is not  only about trying to expose a criminal practice. It is about discovering  who he really is.&lt;/p&gt;                  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7322511481612577767-2392914804565548326?l=badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/feeds/2392914804565548326/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/2011/05/spain-investigates-tragedy-of-stolen.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7322511481612577767/posts/default/2392914804565548326'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7322511481612577767/posts/default/2392914804565548326'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/2011/05/spain-investigates-tragedy-of-stolen.html' title='Spain investigates tragedy of &apos;stolen&apos; newborn babies'/><author><name>Bad News</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12774679970522264882</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7322511481612577767.post-5567764878100659418</id><published>2011-04-02T23:33:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-04-02T23:35:25.176-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Spanish call to probe Franco-era 'baby thefts'</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="story-body"&gt;                  &lt;span class="story-date"&gt;     &lt;span class="date"&gt;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12302629&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;27 January 2011&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="time-text"&gt;Last updated at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="time"&gt;20:49 GMT&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;   &lt;div id="page-bookmark-links-head" class="share-help"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;    &lt;h1 class="story-header"&gt;Spanish call to probe Franco-era 'baby thefts'&lt;/h1&gt;                                                               &lt;span class="byline"&gt;               &lt;span class="byline-name"&gt;By Sarah Rainsford&lt;/span&gt;     &lt;span class="byline-title"&gt;BBC News, Madrid&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;                    &lt;div class="caption body-narrow-width"&gt;   &lt;img src="http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/50988000/jpg/_50988728_011128608-1.jpg" alt="Members of Anadir at a news conference in Getafe 27 Jan 2011" width="304" height="171" /&gt;      &lt;span style="width: 304px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Members of Anadir attended a news conference in Getafe, near Madrid&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class="story-feature related narrow"&gt;   &lt;a class="hidden" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12302629#story_continues_1"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;                       &lt;p class="introduction" id="story_continues_1"&gt;More  than 260 alleged victims of a baby-trafficking network in Spain begun  under the dictator General Francisco Franco have started legal action  demanding an investigation.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;A victim-support group, called Anadir, estimates that thousands of babies were stolen over decades.  &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Many were taken away from parents with left-wing sympathies and given to other families. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;But the group says some babies were stolen after Franco's death in 1975.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Enrique Vila, lawyer for the victims' group bringing the  case, describes a mafia of doctors and intermediaries he claims was  trading children for cash.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;The practice of forcibly removing children from their mothers began in the immediate aftermath of the Civil War.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;The victims then were largely Republican supporters -  including prisoners - whose children were handed to more "ideologically  suitable" families.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"This structure, these methods allowed people to see the potential for a business," said Mr Vila.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"It all started for political reasons, but in the end it could be any child at all that was targeted."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div class="story-feature narrow"&gt;&lt;a class="hidden" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12302629#story_continues_2"&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;h2 class="quote"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;   &lt;img src="http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/50988000/jpg/_50988744_011128628.jpg" alt="Enrique Vila" width="144" height="81" /&gt;  &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p class="first-child"&gt;Just imagine how many there could be in the whole of Spain - this has to be a gigantic investigation”&lt;span class="endquote"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="quote-credit"&gt;Enrique Vila&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span class="quote-credit-title"&gt;Lawyer representing Anadir&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;      &lt;p id="story_continues_2"&gt;Anadir was founded by Antonio Barroso, after the man he always believed was his father made a death-bed confession. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;He admitted he had bought his son, paying "more than the price of a flat" to doctors, in cash. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;DNA tests later proved that Antonio and his parents were not biologically related.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"We want the prosecutor to open a national investigation," Mr Barroso said outside the general prosecutor's office. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;He was accompanied by a crowd of Anadir members in white  T-shirts declaring themselves "the victims of baby-trafficking" and  demanding justice.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"There are cases of mothers who had their babies' graves  opened and found them empty when they had been taking flowers there for  30 years. Mothers who were deliberately tricked. Then there are people  like me, whose birth certificates were faked," Mr Barroso said.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;He tried to get a local court to look into his case, but  failed. He then founded Anadir as a campaign group and has been amazed  at the scale of the response.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div class="caption body-narrow-width"&gt;   &lt;img src="http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/50988000/jpg/_50988751_anadirbanner.jpg" alt="Anadir members in Spain" width="304" height="171" /&gt;      &lt;span style="width: 304px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An Anadir banner declares: "We have the right to know our biological family"&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;       &lt;p&gt;Alberto and his mother Solidad Hernandez are both members. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Solidad gave birth to twins in the 1980s and was told one had  died. But as many mothers now recount, she never saw the body. Alberto  says the official paperwork does not match up.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"One set of papers says my brother was buried, others say he  was cremated. One says he died of respiratory problems, another that he  was malnourished," Alberto says. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;The inconsistencies feed his suspicions and give him hope his twin is still alive.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"All my life I've thought there was someone out there. People  always see me in places I have not been. This case could bring all that  to a close," he says. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Lawyer Enrique Vila admits that not all the suspicious deaths are clear-cut thefts. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"Some mothers may be clinging to that chance, as a means of hope," he says. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"We don't know, we have to investigate. We need to check all  the records, and if necessary order exhumations, to see if there is an  empty grave."&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;But he claims a funeral parlour worker recently admitted transporting 20 empty coffins in the past.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"That is just one man," Mr Vila says. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"Just imagine how many there could be in the whole of Spain. This has to be a gigantic investigation." &lt;/p&gt;                  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7322511481612577767-5567764878100659418?l=badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/feeds/5567764878100659418/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/2011/04/spanish-call-to-probe-franco-era-baby.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7322511481612577767/posts/default/5567764878100659418'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7322511481612577767/posts/default/5567764878100659418'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/2011/04/spanish-call-to-probe-franco-era-baby.html' title='Spanish call to probe Franco-era &apos;baby thefts&apos;'/><author><name>Bad News</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12774679970522264882</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7322511481612577767.post-8480667388370227503</id><published>2011-04-02T23:29:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-04-02T23:30:27.946-07:00</updated><title type='text'>'stolen' newborn babies</title><content type='html'>&lt;div id="print-advert"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;            &lt;div class="story-body"&gt;              &lt;span class="story-date"&gt;     &lt;span class="date"&gt;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12886441&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;31 March 2011&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="time-text"&gt;Last updated at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="time"&gt;00:48 GMT&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;   &lt;div id="page-bookmark-links-head" class="share-help"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;     &lt;h1 class="story-header"&gt;Spain investigates tragedy of 'stolen' newborn babies&lt;/h1&gt;                                                               &lt;span class="byline"&gt;               &lt;span class="byline-name"&gt;By Sarah Rainsford&lt;/span&gt;     &lt;span class="byline-title"&gt;BBC News, Madrid&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;                    &lt;div class="caption body-narrow-width"&gt;   &lt;img src="http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51898000/jpg/_51898515_antonio4.jpg" alt="Antonio Barroso at the office of Anadir, an association set-up to support suspected victims of alleged baby trade" width="304" height="405" /&gt;      &lt;span style="width: 304px;"&gt;Antonio Barroso has been told he was bought at birth&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class="story-feature related narrow"&gt;   &lt;a class="hidden" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12886441#story_continues_1"&gt;Continue reading the main story&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;h2&gt;Related Stories&lt;/h2&gt;   &lt;ul class="related-links-list"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12302629"&gt;Spain call to probe 'baby thefts'&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;                       &lt;p class="introduction" id="story_continues_1"&gt;Antonio  Barroso always suspected that something in his family wasn't quite  right. He was 38 when the secret was finally revealed: his parents had  bought him as a baby.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"I discovered my whole life was a lie," Antonio said. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;The truth came out during the deathbed confession of a family  friend. Like Antonio's parents, he and his wife had been unable to  conceive. Both couples had bought their babies from a nun, for "more  than the price of a flat".&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Antonio's mother has since confirmed the story and DNA tests  have proved he has no genetic link to the couple who raised him. His  birth certificate had been falsified.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;span class="cross-head"&gt;'Illicit trade'&lt;/span&gt;        &lt;p&gt;"I want to know the truth," Antonio said, flicking through  snapshots of his childhood, "To find out who I am and where I come from.  I want to know what happened and who was responsible. And if people  need to be punished, they should be punished".&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Antonio soon discovered other cases similar to his own, and signs of an illicit trade in newborn babies.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;At the support group he set up in Vilanova i la Geltru, his  home town on the Catalan coast, the phone rarely stops ringing. The desk  is piled high with letters from Spaniards who fear they could be  victims of a criminal network, thought to have operated until the 1990s.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div class="story-feature narrow"&gt;  &lt;a class="hidden" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12886441#story_continues_2"&gt;Continue reading the main story&lt;/a&gt; &lt;h2 class="quote"&gt;“&lt;span&gt;Start Quote&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p class="first-child"&gt;We were starting to make a family and  they destroyed that completely. I have to meet my daughter. I want to  tell her, girl, I'm your Dad”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;span class="endquote"&gt;End Quote&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span class="quote-credit"&gt;Salvador Martin&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span class="quote-credit-title"&gt;Father, who believes his daughter was stolen from him&lt;/span&gt;      &lt;ul class="links-list"&gt;&lt;li&gt;   &lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12885238" class="quote-link"&gt;In pictures: Spanish 'baby trade'&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;      &lt;p id="story_continues_2"&gt;For some, that suspicion is  strengthened by Spain's history. After the civil war, children were  removed from Republican prisoners and given to supporters of General  Franco's dictatorship. Historians estimate up to 30,000 children were  affected by the 'ideological cleansing'.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;span class="cross-head"&gt;'Baby-theft'&lt;/span&gt;        &lt;p&gt;"In the 1950s, that practice was converted into mafia  business," said Enrique Vila, a lawyer helping Antonio's support group,  Anadir. "The goal became money. They took children from anyone, to  sell."&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;The lawyer believes some babies were abandoned by unmarried  Catholic girls or prostitutes and others were stolen after doctors told  mothers that their newborns had died.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Ana Josefa Escabia died several hours after giving birth in  Terrassa in 1975. Her husband clearly remembers seeing his daughter  alive. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"I saw her born," Salvador Martin said, his eyes welling with tears, 36 years later. "She was gorgeous, just like her sister."&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;But doctors later told Salvador his baby had been stillborn. A sealed coffin was delivered to the cemetery.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div class="caption body-narrow-width"&gt;   &lt;img src="http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51879000/jpg/_51879028_anayounger.jpg" alt="Salvador Martin and wife Ana Josefa, in 1970s, just before she became pregnant " width="304" height="171" /&gt;      &lt;span style="width: 304px;"&gt;Ana Josefa Escabia and her husband were told that their baby was stillborn&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;       &lt;p&gt;Last December, tormented by doubts, Salvador decided to open  the family vault. DNA tests revealed the baby inside was a boy, and no  relation. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Salvador is now desperate to know what happened to his  daughter. No other baby was buried in Terrassa on that day. He is  convinced his child was stolen.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;span class="cross-head"&gt;DNA database&lt;/span&gt;        &lt;p&gt;"It's not like a bag of oranges that you sell. It's a child,"  he said, holding a picture of Ana shortly before she became pregnant.  "We were starting to make a family and they destroyed that completely. I  have to meet my daughter. I want to tell her, girl, I'm your Dad".&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div class="caption body-narrow-width"&gt;   &lt;img src="http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51938000/jpg/_51938890_lolli-still-2-jpg.jpg" alt="Dolores Diaz Cerpa, one of many mothers who is searching for a child she believes was stolen" width="304" height="171" /&gt;      &lt;span style="width: 304px;"&gt;Dolores Diaz Cerpa believes her son was stolen from her&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;       &lt;p&gt;That longing to be reunited has led Anadir to create a DNA  database. When a scientist recently visited Seville to take swabs, the  small hall was  packed with people convinced that their children had  been stolen.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Among those queuing nervously was 72-year-old Dolores Diaz  Cerpa. She gave birth in 1973 and says when she awoke from surgery she  saw 2 cots.  A nurse said she'd had twins. But the boy was then removed  and when Dolores woke up again she was told she'd had a girl.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"I always believed I'd had two children and they took one off  me," Dolores said. "I would dream of him and wake up wondering how he  was."&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;That conviction was compounded in 1995 when she requested her  medical records and was sent papers for a baby boy. Dolores is entering  her DNA in the database in the hope that the child she's so sure she  gave birth to is alive.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;"If he knows he's adopted, I just want him to know I didn't  abandon him. He was stolen," she says, echoing the view of many mothers  here.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Anadir has more than 800 members now. Other groups have more.  Most are women who never saw their babies' bodies, never believed they  had died and can find no record of their burials at cemeteries.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div class="caption"&gt;   &lt;img src="http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51884000/jpg/_51884117_antoniocourt.jpg" alt="One of many Spanish courts now investigating allegations of a baby trafficking network" width="226" height="282" /&gt;      &lt;span style="width: 226px;"&gt;Antonio Barroso has been asked to make a statement in court&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;       &lt;p&gt;It is possible many of the  children are really dead, that  there are simply mistakes in the paperwork, or that mothers are  confused, still raw from their loss.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;span class="cross-head"&gt;Court summons&lt;/span&gt;        &lt;p&gt;But signs of a more sinister story are mounting.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;A former nurse has claimed she witnessed baby-thefts in  Madrid. A cemetery worker in Granada told the BBC he had handled child  coffins that were suspiciously light, and now Anadir says a woman who  was told her child had died has just been reunited with her daughter in  Barcelona. The family have not spoken publicly.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Spain's courts are certainly taking the claims seriously. &lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;Anadir delivered details of 261 cases of suspected baby-theft  to the state prosecutor in January. Regional prosecutors have been  ordered to investigate. Across Spain hundreds of people are now being  summoned to make statements. New cases are being reported all the time.&lt;/p&gt;         &lt;p&gt;After years of fighting to get the courts to listen, Antonio  Barroso has also been called to see the prosecutor. For him this is not  only about trying to expose a criminal practice. 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color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-weight: normal; " &gt;&lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/18/vatican-irish-bishops-child-abuse"&gt;http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/18/vatican-irish-bishops-child-abuse&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;h1 style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:1.5pt;margin-left: 0cm;background:white"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:19.5pt;font-family:Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:#333333;font-weight:normal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;h1 style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:1.5pt;margin-left: 0cm;background:white"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:19.5pt;font-family:Georgia; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:#333333;font-weight:normal"&gt;Vatican letter told Ireland's Catholic bishops not to report child abuse&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;  &lt;p class="stand-first-alone" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background: white;background-repeat:no-repeat" id="stand-first"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;color:#666666"&gt;Policy to tell police about priest suspects was vetoed, as lawyers say proof at last of cover-up by papacy&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:11.25pt;background:white"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:11.25pt;background:white"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"&gt;Associated Press in Dublin&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:11.25pt;background:white"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#005689"&gt;guardian.co.uk&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;time datetime="2011-01-18T20:48GMT" pubdate="" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; "&gt;Tuesday 18 January 2011 20.48 GMT&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/time&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:11.25pt;background:white"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:11.25pt;background:white"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; font-size: 14px; border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;&lt;img src="http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2011/1/18/1295383627499/A-copy-of-the-1997-letter-007.jpg" width="460" height="276" alt="A copy of the 1997 letter from the Vatican warning Irish bishops not to report child-abuse cases" style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; " /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 18px; "&gt;&lt;figcaption style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); display: block; font-size: 12px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/figcaption&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"&gt;A copy of the 1997 letter from the Vatican, obtained by Irish broadcasters RTE and provided to AP, warning Ireland's Catholic bishops not to report all suspected child-abuse cases to police. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.5pt; font-family:Arial;color:#333333"&gt;A letter to&lt;span class="apple-converted-space"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/ireland" title="More from guardian.co.uk on Ireland" style="background-repeat:no-repeat"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#005689"&gt;Ireland&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;'s Roman Catholic bishops has been revealed by the broadcaster RTE that contradicts the&lt;span class="apple-converted-space"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/vatican" title="More from guardian.co.uk on Vatican" style="background-repeat:no-repeat"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#005689"&gt;Vatican&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;'s frequent claim it has never instructed clergy to withhold evidence or suspicion of child abuse from police.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.5pt; font-family:Arial;color:#333333"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.75pt;margin-left: 0cm;background-repeat:no-repeat"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family: Arial;color:#333333"&gt;The 1997 letter documents rejection of a 1996 Irish church initiative to help police identify paedophile priests. Signed by the late Archbishop Luciano Storero, Pope John Paul II's envoy to Ireland, it instructs bishops that their new policy of making the reporting of suspected crimes mandatory "gives rise to serious reservations of both a moral and canonical nature".&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.75pt;margin-left: 0cm;background-repeat:no-repeat"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family: Arial;color:#333333"&gt;Storero wrote that canon law, whereby allegations and punishments are handled within the church, "must be meticulously followed"; any bishop who tried to go outside canon law would face the "highly embarrassing" position of being overturned on appeal in Rome.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.75pt;margin-left: 0cm;background-repeat:no-repeat"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family: Arial;color:#333333"&gt;A 2009 Irish state report found this actually happened with Tony Walsh, one of Dublin's most notorious paedophiles, who exploited his role as an Elvis impersonator in a popular "All Priests Show" to get closer to children. In 1993, Walsh was defrocked by a secret church court, but successfully appealed to a Vatican court, and was reinstated in the priesthood in 1994. He raped a boy in a pub restroom that year. Walsh since has received a series of prison sentences, with a 12-year term imposed last month. Investigators estimate he raped or molested more than 100 children.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.75pt;margin-left: 0cm;background-repeat:no-repeat"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family: Arial;color:#333333"&gt;Catholic officials in Ireland and the Vatican declined requests from the Associated Press to comment on the letter, marked "strictly confidential"; RTE said it had been given it by an Irish bishop.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.75pt;margin-left: 0cm;background-repeat:no-repeat"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family: Arial;color:#333333"&gt;"The letter is of huge international significance," said Colm O'Gorman, director of the Irish section of Amnesty International. "It shows that the Vatican's intention is to prevent reporting of abuse to criminal authorities. And if that instruction applied here [in Ireland], it applied everywhere."&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.75pt;margin-left: 0cm;background-repeat:no-repeat"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family: Arial;color:#333333"&gt;Joelle Casteix, a director of the US advocacy group Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests, described it as "the smoking gun we've been looking for." It was certain to be cited by lawyers acting for victims seeking to pin responsibility directly on Rome, not the dioceses.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.75pt;margin-left: 0cm;background-repeat:no-repeat"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family: Arial;color:#333333"&gt;To this day, the Vatican has not endorsed any of the Irish church's three documents since 1996 on safeguarding children. Irish taxpayers, rather than the church, have paid most of the €1.5bn to more than 14,000 abuse claimants dating back to the 1940s.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.75pt;margin-left: 0cm;background-repeat:no-repeat"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family: Arial;color:#333333"&gt;In a 2010 letter to Ireland condemning paedophiles in the ranks, Pope Benedict XVI faulted bishops for not following canon law and offered no explicit endorsement of child-protection efforts by the Irish church or state. He was widely criticised in Ireland.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:9.75pt;margin-left: 0cm;background-repeat:no-repeat"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family: Arial;color:#333333"&gt;O'Gorman (who was raped repeatedly by a priest in the 1980s when an altar boy) said evidence is mounting that some Irish bishops continued to follow the 1997 Vatican instructions. 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clear: left; font-weight: bold; "&gt;The European Court of Human Rights has ruled that Irish abortion laws violated the rights of one of three women who sought terminations in Britain.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The woman, who was in remission for a rare form of cancer, feared it might return as a result of her pregnancy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;While abortion in the Republic is technically allowed if a woman's life is at risk, the court said that was not made possible for the woman involved.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;But it ruled two other women in the case had not had their rights breached.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The court said the Irish government had failed to properly implement the constitutional right to abortion if a woman's life was in danger.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Correspondents say the ruling is likely to force the Dublin government to introduce new legislation or bring in new guidelines.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen said politicians now needed to consider the implications of the ruling.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;"It's an issue for the whole political spectrum to consider," he said.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;&lt;strong style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Respect for private life&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The first two women in the case were a single mother who had other children in care and a woman who did not want to become a single parent.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="story-feature wide " style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; position: relative; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: -160px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 16px; width: 304px; float: right; display: inline; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; clear: right; "&gt;&lt;a class="hidden" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11342247#story_continues_2" style="color: rgb(31, 79, 130); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold; position: absolute; top: -5000px; left: -5000px; "&gt;Continue reading the main story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;h2 style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 11px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 12px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.231em; border-top-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(216, 216, 216); border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(216, 216, 216); font-weight: bold; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p id="story_continues_2" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;All three women said they had suffered medical complications on returning to the Irish Republic and said they believed they had not been entitled to an abortion under Irish law.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;They all complained that Irish restrictions on abortion had stigmatised and humiliated them, risking damage to their health.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;However the third woman had argued that even though she believed her pregnancy had put her life at risk, there was no law or procedure for her to have her right to an abortion established.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The court said that the government in Dublin had breached the third woman's right to respect for her private life by its "failure to implement the existing constitutional right to a lawful abortion in Ireland".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;It ruled that "neither the medical consultation nor litigation options, relied on by the Irish government, constituted effective and accessible procedures which allowed the third applicant to establish her right to a lawful abortion in Ireland".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The court said that the only non-judicial way of determining the risk to a woman's life - on which the government relied - was an ordinary medical consultation between the woman and her doctor. It described this as "ineffective".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;It said that women and their doctors both ran a risk of criminal conviction and imprisonment "if an initial doctor's opinion that abortion was an option as it posed a risk to the woman's health was later found to be against the Irish constitution".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The court said Irish constitutional courts were not appropriate for determining whether a woman qualified for a lawful abortion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Under Irish law, abortion is a criminal act although a referendum in 1983 amended the constitution acknowledging the mother's right to life was equal to that of the child.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Following several legal cases, the Irish Supreme Court ruled in 1992 that abortion was lawful if the mother's life was at risk.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;However, the Irish parliament has never enacted legislation regulating the constitutionally guaranteed right.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The three women were all supported by the Irish Family Planning Association. They have not been identified, although two are Irish nationals and one is a Lithuanian who is resident in the Irish Republic.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The UK-based abortion charity BPAS - which submitted written observations to the court - welcomed the ruling.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;"The lack of clarity as to when abortion may be lawful in Ireland puts women and doctors in an impossible situation, and the sooner this can be remedied the better," said BPAS chief executive Ann Furedi.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); 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margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;BBC Ireland Correspondent&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Ireland is now under pressure to do what successive Irish governments have avoided doing for almost 20 years - alter its abortion laws.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;In theory, it would not be a major change. It would simply reflect the judgement of the Irish Supreme Court in 1992 which ruled that a woman whose life was in danger should be allowed an abortion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;In practice, defining what constitutes a threat to life for the mother will be a legal minefield.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Changing the law would also be a political minefield. Ireland is bitterly divided over abortion, and the Irish government has plenty of other priorities at present with the financial crisis and a general election early next year.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The European Court ruling means Ireland must now reconsider its abortion legislation. 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font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Two days after Tony Walsh's first appointment to Ballyfermot parish in &lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;July&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;1978&lt;/strong&gt;, the parents of an eight-year-old boy complained that he had abused their son, but the Archdiocese made no response to the boy's parents.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Walsh denied the abuse and nothing further was done. The priest to whom the complaint was made noted 'the parents are most responsible people and there is no danger of publicity.'&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Second complaint&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;The second complaint was made by the mother of a 14-year-boy that her son had been abused in Ballyfermot in &lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;1978 and 1979&lt;/strong&gt;. The parish priest said he would contact the Archbishop's house but the only action taken was that Fr Michael Cleary, based in Ballyfermot at the time, went to the boy's home in 1980 'to educate him on male sexuality.'&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;The boy's mother said Fr Cleary did apologise but there are no records of any communication with the Archdiocese and in 1985 a canon told a monsignor that matters were 'hushed up.' The priest did not report it to gardaí.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;A former youth co-ordinator who later became a priest complained to the Archdiocese between 1980-82 about Walsh's activities with young girls at a Summer Camp. No action was taken.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Warning to Archbishop&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;The parish priest of Ballyfermot in &lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;1984&lt;/strong&gt; was given 'a veiled warning' about Walsh by Archbishop Ryan. The report says either the Archbishop was not entirely convinced by an earlier allegation or was concerned about subsequent allegations.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;March 1985&lt;/strong&gt; - Seven priests were aware of concerns about Walsh's behaviour.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;The PP of Ballyfermot Fr Donal O Doherty told Monsignor Stenson, chancellor of the diocese and top administrator, about a series of events which caused him alarm.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;He said he also told Bishop Donal Murray and they agreed 'if it occurred again, he should act'. It is not clear what 'it' means.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Initial treatment&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;April 1985&lt;/strong&gt; Monsignor Stenson met Tony Walsh who 'denied nothing' and admitted to further abuse of a boy in Wicklow that the diocese knew nothing about. Walsh agreed to go to a psychiatrist and was 'grateful that he had been given a second chance'.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;June 1985&lt;/strong&gt; Walsh attended a psychiatrist who said he was amenable to treatment - three alternatives - electric shock, medication and 'reorientation method to channel the drive appropriately.'&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;October 1985&lt;/strong&gt;. Another complaint - the psychiatrist was informed - Walsh denied the claims and no further action was taken. Walsh moved from Ballyfermot to Westland Row.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;In his letter appointing him, the Archbishop says 'I want to take this opportunity to thank you for your dedicated work in Ballyfermot.' The report describes this as 'astonishing'.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Housekeeper evidence&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Numerous more complaints emerged after he left Ballyfermot. His housekeeper told gardaí there were always young children in the house and once she met two young boys coming out of Walsh's bedroom.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Walsh took up his position in Westland row in &lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;1986&lt;/strong&gt;. The diocese was now aware of four specific complaints and a number of concerns.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;In 1997 Monsignor Stenson said 'I recall a sense of urgency in moving him to a safer place' and 'we had no idea about the enormity of his problems'. The report states 'It is difficult to conclude that the move was for any purpose other than to avoid further scandal in Ballyfermot.'&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;He was removed from a parish where the PP was aware of his actions and endeavouring to restrain him to a parish where the PP knew nothing about him.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;A priest who knew of the problems the 1979 victim and his family were having, criticised the Archbishop for unsatisfactory responses to the mother's letters.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Walsh was asked by Monsignor Stenson to 'reconsider his involvement in entertainment and public appearances in the area where the family lived.'&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;He said he'd think about it but he continued with his singing career.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Westland Row&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;1987. &lt;/strong&gt;The housekeeper found some of her clothes in Walsh's room. Her underwear had been 'used'. She burned the clothes. She also found syringes and condoms and mentioned that boys stayed overnight there.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Monsignor Stenson said he had 'no doubt about her truthfulness' but Walsh denied the claims and said he didn't know what condoms were like.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;1988.&lt;/strong&gt; More allegations in Westland Row - when it was put to Walsh by Monsignor Stenson he abused a girl on his knee, he said he was drunk and couldn't remember. However, the Monsignor says when he asked him about another allegation 'for the first time he really opened up.'&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;The Monsignor met the parents of the most recent victim. They were extremely kind and concerned and said they&lt;em style="font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; "&gt; 'would not like Walsh to suffer because of one misdemeanour&lt;/em&gt;.' The Monsignor did not tell them there was a history of this behaviour.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Church account&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Walsh wrote out an account of 'his difficulties', not a full account, minimises his abuse. In &lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;May 1988&lt;/strong&gt; - 10 years after the first complaint it was decided to send him to Stroud (Centre run by Catholic Religious Order in UK) for treatment and he was removed from his position in Westland Row&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;June 1988&lt;/strong&gt;. Monsignor Stenson noted the report from Stroud which said Walsh 'is a very disturbed man, is always going to be dangerous, there have been an awful lot of children, he could not be let near schools, children, confession etc'&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;November 1988&lt;/strong&gt;. Final Stroud Report stated: 'under no circumstances should he have any apostolate involving children.' Walsh signed a contract with the Archdiocese agreeing not to make any physical contact with a child beyond a handshake in public and not to visit Ballyfermot under any circumstances.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;He was appointed chaplain in a hospital for older people and people with long term illness and nominated Fr Michael Cleary as his spiritual director.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;February 1989&lt;/strong&gt;. Walsh in counselling. Stroud review - Archbishop told 'so far so good.' However, it was clear that Walsh was chaffing against the restraints and wanted back to Ballyfermot.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;May 1989&lt;/strong&gt;. Stroud - said he was bored - Walsh started to resume his old behaviour.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Complaints from parents&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Aug 1989&lt;/strong&gt;. Parents complained to Monsignor Stenson. Walsh went to the family home to apologise to the parents even though the Monsignor told him to stay away.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Sept 1989&lt;/strong&gt;. Archbishop gave him permission to solemnise a wedding. Archdiocese knew Walsh was visiting scouts in a parish he was not assigned to.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;April 1990&lt;/strong&gt; Archbishop Connell and Monsignor Stenson met Walsh and told him his only option was voluntary laicisation or dismissal. He was given until 1 May to make a decision.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Suggestion of informing gardaí 'outrageous'&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Monsignor Sheehy intervenes with Archbishop for Walsh - warned Archbishop Connell of 'canonical minefield.' Monsignor Sheehy described a meeting in August as 'the most depressing meeting I have ever attended' and that Bishop Walsh made the 'outrageous suggestion that the Archbishop should inform the civil authorities.'&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;September 1990&lt;/strong&gt;. Deadline extended - Walsh given leave of absence for a year. The report says it is quite clear the Archbishop wanted to prepare him for life as a layman.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Jan 1991&lt;/strong&gt;. Walsh living in Dublin in Halston Street&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;March 1991 -&lt;/strong&gt;Scout leader and parent contacted Archbishop to say Walsh was back in Dublin. He had been seen with a boy in his car. Bishops meeting decided to institute a penal process against him, discussed informing gardaí, but did not.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;May 1991&lt;/strong&gt;. Walsh sent to Mellifont Abbey&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;June 1991&lt;/strong&gt; Monsignor Stenson told by a victim (1980/81) that Walsh was continuing to go to Ballyfermot.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;August 1991&lt;/strong&gt; - Walsh refuses UK treatment&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Claims of 'persecution'&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;In &lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;July 1992&lt;/strong&gt;, Tony Walsh did not turn up at the Archdiocesan Library for a period of two weeks, the report says he was 'not getting on well' there.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;A priest from Westland Row contacted Monsignor Stenson informing him Walsh was spending some time in the parish.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;The Monsignor advised the priest to contact the Garda Superintendent on College Green and request he keep an eye on Walsh.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Tony Walsh complained to the Archbishop about 'persecution' by Monsignor Stenson.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;A report from concerned parents in &lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;December 1992&lt;/strong&gt; that Walsh had called into local scouts meetings stating he was 'attached to Clonliffe' was passed on by Monsignor Stenson to Bishops.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;In May 2003, Monsignor Stenson was informed by another priest about concerns expressed by a Ballyfermot parishioner about inappropriate behaviour with a young girl and behaviour with altar boys.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;The report states that the local priest with whom the concerns were raised 'clearly knew' of the 'reputation', which Walsh had and advised the parishioner to avoid all contact with him.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Penal process verdict&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;In &lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;August 1993&lt;/strong&gt;, the Penal Process delivered its verdict. It said he should be 'dismissed from the clerical state', because he had offended against the ten commandments with a 'minor or minors' under the age of 16.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Walsh's psychologist said that there was a 'better way of controlling him' and suggested the Church could find a way of using him 'rather than to dump him'.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Two months later in &lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;October 1993&lt;/strong&gt;, Walsh appealed to Rome against the decision to dismiss him from the priesthood. He told Rome he had not offended since 1988 and he said he considered his punishment too harsh.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;In &lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;June 1994&lt;/strong&gt;, Rome allowed his appeal against the penalty imposed and said he should remain as a cleric provided he enter a monastery for a period of ten years.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;1994 - Further complaint&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;In &lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;May 1994&lt;/strong&gt;, a young boy complained to gardaí in Ballyfermot that he had been sexually assaulted by Walsh in the toilet of a pub following the funeral of the boy's grandfather.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;There was also an allegation a similar incident had happened a year earlier.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Walsh attended the local Garda Station, but according to the report 'declined to answer any questions.'&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;In &lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;late 1994&lt;/strong&gt;, newspaper reports about the incident in the pub involving the boy were published, but Walsh was not identified.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;In December of that year, the mother of boys who had been abused by Walsh rang Monsignor Stenson to say her son was suicidal and Walsh had been babysitting in recent weeks.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Church restrictions&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Monsignor Stenson met with Tony Walsh and told him he was not to wear clerical dress on any occasion. He was banned from being alone with a child. He was not to mislead people that he was attached to Clonliffe College, the Archbishops House or the Marriage Tribunal.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Walsh was told by the Monsignor that if he did not comply with the Archbishop's directions, 'his financial situation would be reviewed'.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;1995 - Opposition to civil action&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;In early &lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;1995&lt;/strong&gt;, Walsh admitted to gardaí he had indecently assaulted two boys in the 1980s.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;A number of other complaints were made to the gardaí and the Archdiocese.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;The report says that in spite of mounting evidence and media coverage Monsignor Sheehy advised the then Archbishop Connell against excessive reaction, 'no matter what civil law may say.'&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;In &lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;June 1995&lt;/strong&gt;, priests from Ballyfermot and other parishes were invited to a meeting with Archbishop Connell to discuss problems that might be encountered following recent publicity surrounding Tony Walsh.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Finding a monastery&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Archbishop Connell wrote to the judicial body in Rome informing them he was unable to find a monastery for Walsh and was appealing its decision. The Archdiocese said no monastery would take Walsh.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;He told Rome he could not send him abroad because he had been charged with a criminal offence.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;The Archbishop told Rome that he had to act definitively with regard to Walsh because, he said, 'in the present climate in this country, the alternative could well be a serious scandal for the church.'&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;The report claims that by the summer of &lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;1995&lt;/strong&gt; the Archdiocese was reporting all complaints to the gardaí and complainants were being offered counselling.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Dismissed by the Pope&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Archbishop Connell wrote to Rome and begged the pope to dismiss Walsh. He sent a letter to a senior member of the Curia in Rome to officially petition Pope John Paul II to dismiss him.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Archbishop Connell wrote, 'the Archbishop humbly begs the Holy Father graciously to grant him this favour in the interests of the well-being of the Church.'&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;The plea was successful and in &lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;January 1996&lt;/strong&gt; a decree issued by the now Pope Benedict, then Cardinal Ratzinger, confirmed the Pope had dismissed Walsh as a priest.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;The report states that the decision to petition the Pope was a novel one which had created a precedent.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;Walsh tried to appeal against the Pope's decision, he wanted the Pope to intervene and allow him remain a priest because he was living in the Cistercian Monastery in Mount Melleray.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;From July 1996, the Archdiocese no longer regarded Walsh as being entitled to pay and it awarded him £10,500 severance pay.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;1996-1997&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;A young man abused in 1979 contacted the Archdiocese in &lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;November 1997&lt;/strong&gt; complaining about the inadequate response of Bishop Kavanagh to his complaint in 1979. He said that if a robust response had been taken at the appropriate time, further abuses could have been avoided.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Further complaints&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;The report says that further complaints emerged in the 1990s and 2000s. All people involved were offered counselling, but one complainant told the Commission that 'the Church have failed me and still fail me today.'&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Release from prison&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;In &lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;March 2002&lt;/strong&gt;, before his release from prison, Walsh wrote to the Abbot of Mount Melleray seeking accommodation after his release but was declined.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;He also wrote to Cardinal Connell stating he had nowhere to live and no money and said that he had been looking forward to his release, but did not expect it would be accompanied by the ordeal of having nowhere to go.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;The Archbishop had written to the prison advising them that Walsh must organise his own accommodation and work on his release.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Acceptance&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;The Commission says that Walsh never accepted that he was dismissed from the priesthood.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;The report states he continued to seek ways of appeal against the Pope's decision. It also states that he has appeared in Clerical Dress on some occasions. It adds that despite being threatened with ex-communication if he continued to represent himself as a priest, it did not deter him.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Commission's Assessment&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;The Commission concludes that the welfare of children did not arise as a consideration for the Archdiocese, despite an established clear danger to children.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;It says that by 1985, the Archdiocese knew he was a serial abuser and his transfer to Westland Row was clearly an attempt to avoid further scandal in Ballyfermot.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;The report concludes that action should have been taken by the Archdiocese in 1979 'at the latest'. But it recognises that Archbishop Connell did act decisively once he became Archbishop.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;strong style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Gardaí&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 7px; padding-bottom: 20px; padding-left: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 20px; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;The Commission says it is 'unacceptable' that two gardaí who had concerns about Walsh in 1990 and 1992 failed to pursue a thorough criminal investigation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; 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font-size: 16px; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12020813#facebook"&gt;FacebookMurphy Report reveals Vatican protected sex abuser&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Share this page&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="caption body-narrow-width" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; position: relative; clear: both; float: right; display: inline; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: -160px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 16px; font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;img src="http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/50472000/jpg/_50472423_0003ff9b-314-1.jpg" width="304" height="171" alt="Tony Walsh" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; 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margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;A previously censored chapter of the Murphy Report describes Tony Walsh as the "most notorious" paedophile to come to its attention.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Walsh was jailed for 12 years earlier this month for abusing three boys.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;But the report said he was likely to have assaulted hundreds of children.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The Murphy Report by the Commission of Inquiry was published in November 2009.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;However, chapter 19 was held back because Walsh was before the courts.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; 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The final four years of the sentence were suspended.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The previously unseen chapter criticises the Catholic Church and the police for the way they handled the case.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span class="cross-head" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; display: block; font-weight: bold; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 1.231em; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; "&gt;'Funeral'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;It details more than 15 years of abuse and concludes Walsh was moved from Dublin parishes in Ballyfermot to Westland Row to avoid further scandal.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;It outlines how the former priest abused children in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s even though priests, canons, monsignors, bishops and the Archbishop in Dublin knew about it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;An attack on a young boy in the toilet of a pub in Dublin in May 1994 eventually led to his dismissal.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Walsh assaulted the child after attending the funeral of his grandfather, as the Catholic hierarchy in Rome debated how he should be dealt with.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;An investigation into his behaviour began in the early 90s by Dublin-based priests but the report said Walsh fought the Church penal process at every stage.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The process to dismiss him as a cleric began in January 1992, almost a year after the decision to do so was made.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;In 1993 Rome was asked to laicise him.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Walsh appealed and Rome allowed him to remain as a priest until Archbishop Desmond Connell wrote to the Vatican and begged the Pope to dismiss him.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;He was eventually defrocked in 1996 - 16 years after the first complaint.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;He was given €10,500 severance pay but continued to represent himself as a priest.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The Commission stated: "This option of dismissing a priest directly by the Pope is reserved for grave and clear cases and is regarded as an extraordinary remedy, even when the normal penal process is inadequate."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Forty people complained of being abused by Walsh and he admitted to "using children for sexual gratification" once a fortnight over an eight-year period.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The report stated that Archbishop Dermot Ryan, head of the Archdiocese from 1972-1984, failed to properly investigate complaints against several priests including Walsh.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The report also criticises the "unacceptable" behaviour of two police officers involved in the case.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; 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font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;In a vote after the debate, the audience voted two-to-one in Mr Hitchens' favour.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;A 23-country poll paid for by the debate's Canadian organisers suggests the world is evenly split on the issue.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The confrontation took place in front of a sell-out audience of 2,700 people in Toronto's Roy Thomson Hall.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The two men were asked to debate the motion: "That religion is a force for good in the world".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span class="cross-head" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; display: block; font-weight: bold; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 1.231em; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; "&gt;'Cruel experiment'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The BBC's Paul Adams, who was in the hall, said it was a carefully moderated and largely polite debate, without the rumbles of thunder many had been hoping for.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="story-feature wide " style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; position: relative; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: -160px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 16px; width: 304px; float: right; display: inline; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; clear: right; "&gt;&lt;a class="hidden" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11843586#story_continues_1" style="color: rgb(31, 79, 130); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold; position: absolute; top: -5000px; left: -5000px; "&gt;Continue reading the main story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="caption body-narrow-width" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; position: relative; clear: both; float: none; display: block; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;img src="http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/50177000/jpg/_50177310_010729553-1.jpg" width="304" height="171" alt="Tony Blair and Christopher Hitchens in Toronto, Canada (26 Nov 2010)" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; -webkit-user-select: none; display: block; margin-top: -9px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 17px; margin-left: 0px; position: relative; font-size: 13px; letter-spacing: 0px; font-weight: normal; font-style: italic; " /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Tony Blair&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; clear: both; "&gt;&lt;li style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 16px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; background-image: url(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/view/1_4_0/cream/hi/shared/img/story_sprite.gif); background-position: -1200px 5px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; "&gt;Former Labour PM, aged 57&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 16px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; background-image: url(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/view/1_4_0/cream/hi/shared/img/story_sprite.gif); background-position: -1200px 5px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; "&gt;Brought up in a Christian family, he says he became a practising Christian while studying at Oxford University&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 16px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; background-image: url(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/view/1_4_0/cream/hi/shared/img/story_sprite.gif); background-position: -1200px 5px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; "&gt;Converted to Catholicism in 2007&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 16px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; background-image: url(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/view/1_4_0/cream/hi/shared/img/story_sprite.gif); background-position: -1200px 5px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; "&gt;Launched Tony Blair Faith Foundation in 2008&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Christopher Hitchens&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; clear: both; "&gt;&lt;li style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 16px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; background-image: url(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/view/1_4_0/cream/hi/shared/img/story_sprite.gif); background-position: -1200px 5px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; "&gt;Sixty-one-year-old journalist, author and critic&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 16px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; background-image: url(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/view/1_4_0/cream/hi/shared/img/story_sprite.gif); background-position: -1200px 5px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; "&gt;Refused to take part in prayers at his Christian boarding school&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 16px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; background-image: url(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/view/1_4_0/cream/hi/shared/img/story_sprite.gif); background-position: -1200px 5px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; "&gt;Says his "bohemian and rackety" lifestyle may have caused his cancer of the oesophagus&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 16px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; background-image: url(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/view/1_4_0/cream/hi/shared/img/story_sprite.gif); background-position: -1200px 5px; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; "&gt;Regarded as a leader of the "New Atheism"&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul class="links-list" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 7px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; clear: both; border-top-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(216, 216, 216); "&gt;&lt;li style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9234000/9234386.stm" style="color: rgb(31, 79, 130); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Blair and Hitchens keep the gloves on&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p id="story_continues_1" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Mr Blair, a lifelong Christian who converted to Catholicism after leaving office in 2007, acknowledged that "horrific acts" had been committed in the name of religion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;But he said that a "world without faith would be morally diminished".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;He said the most challenging issue for people of faith was how to explain the relevance of ancient scripture in the modern world.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Mr Blair also insisted that his decision to support the US invasion of Iraq was based on policy and not on his faith.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Mr Hitchens, who has previously described Christianity, Judaism and Islam as the "real axis of evil", said religion was "a cruel experiment whereby we are created sick and ordered to be well".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Humans gained little, and compromised their freedom, by acting like sheep, said Mr Hitchens.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;He said religions created a "celestial dictatorship" which was "greedy for praise from dawn to dusk". He won a laugh from the audience and Mr Blair when he compared such an authority to the North Korean leadership.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;In the end, the audience seemed more impressed, and perhaps more entertained, by Mr Hitchens, says our correspondent, and he won the debate by a margin of two to one.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span class="cross-head" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; display: block; font-weight: bold; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 1.231em; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; "&gt;Global poll&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Prior to the debate, the organisers had commisioned a 23-country poll on religion by Ipsos.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="story-feature wide " style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; position: relative; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: -160px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 16px; width: 304px; float: right; display: inline; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; clear: right; "&gt;&lt;a class="hidden" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11843586#story_continues_2" style="color: rgb(31, 79, 130); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold; position: absolute; top: -5000px; left: -5000px; "&gt;Continue reading the main story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;h2 style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 11px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 12px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.231em; border-top-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(216, 216, 216); border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(216, 216, 216); font-weight: bold; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; "&gt;Analysis&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;div class="byline" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; display: block; position: relative; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 16px; padding-left: 0px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-color: rgb(216, 216, 216); margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; clear: both; border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; "&gt;&lt;span class="byline-name" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; display: block; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 1.231em; font-weight: bold; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; padding-bottom: 2px; border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; "&gt;Paul Adams&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="byline-title" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; display: block; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;BBC News, Toronto&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Anyone expecting verbal pugilism, or a blood-soaked gladitorial contest, with Tony Blair as the Christian thrown to the hungry atheist lion, might have walked out into Toronto's chilly night a little disappointed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;It's not that the two men didn't debate with conviction, but the format engendered politeness - this is Canada, after all- and somewhat stifled argument.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;And perhaps the lion is wounded. Mr Hitchens is starting to look frail, in the throes of a cancer that he acknowledges will probably kill him. Tony Blair, by contrast, looks a picture of well-dressed health.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;When asked which of each other's arguments they found convincing, both men were polite, respectful.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Tony Blair admitted that it wasn't always easy for people of faith to explain the importance of scripture in the modern world.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Mr Hitchens admitted no such intellectual difficulties, saying he preferred the awe-inspiring wonders of the cosmos to what he sees as the destructive teachings of organised religion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;An audience of 2,700 sat in rapt attention, frequently applauding both men. But a random sample afterwards tended to tell a consistent story. People weren't necessarily opposed to Mr Blair's argument, but they found Mr Hitchens the more persuasive speaker.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p id="story_continues_2" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Some 48% of the 18,192 people questioned by Ipsos took the view that "religion provides the common values and ethical foundations that diverse societies need to the thrive in the 21st Century".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Fractionally more - 52% - supported the view that "religious beliefs promote intolerance, exacerbate ethnic divisions, and impede social progress in developing and developed nations alike".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Rich countries were less likely to see religion as a force for good than poor countries - the main exception being the United States, where 65% said it had a positive impact.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The Ipsos poll, conducted in September, found that Europe was the region most doubtful about the benefits of religion, with just 19% in Sweden agreeing that it was a force for good.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;At the other end of the scale, in Saudi Arabia and Indonesia, it was seen as a positive force by more than 90% of those questioned.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Within North America, there was a pronounced divide. In Canada, only 36% agreed with the positive view of religion whereas 64% saw it as a negative force - figures almost exactly the reverse of those in the US.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Christopher Hitchens has continued his outspoken attacks on religion in interviews as he is treated for cancer of the oesophagus.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;He is scathing about those who suggest his illness might lead him to retract his atheism.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); 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font-weight: bold; position: absolute; top: -5000px; left: -5000px; "&gt;Continue reading the main story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;h2 style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 11px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 12px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.231em; border-top-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(216, 216, 216); border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(216, 216, 216); font-weight: bold; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; "&gt;Blair v Hitchens on the BBC&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;ul style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; 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margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 20px; color: rgb(16, 16, 16); "&gt;His victims are all now in their 40s, 50s and 60s.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 20px; color: rgb(16, 16, 16); "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h4 style="text-align: center; font-size: 1.2em; letter-spacing: -0.05em; text-decoration: underline; margin-top: 20px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(48, 48, 48); "&gt;Manipulative&lt;/h4&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; 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padding-left: 0px; line-height: 20px; color: rgb(16, 16, 16); "&gt;Passing sentence, Judge Patrick Thomas QC branded Robinson devious and manipulative and slammed him for running away from his accusers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 20px; color: rgb(16, 16, 16); "&gt;He said: "The offences you committed were unimaginably wicked and caused immense and long-lasting — we can only hope not permanent — damage to the six victims.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 20px; color: rgb(16, 16, 16); "&gt;"You used, you abused your position of trust, your position of authority and total trust within the communities that you moved to and from."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 20px; color: rgb(16, 16, 16); "&gt;He added: "You enjoyed, I have no doubt at all, selecting your victims, choosing vulnerable children.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 20px; color: rgb(16, 16, 16); "&gt;"You enjoyed doing your best to habituate them, to groom them into accepting what you did to them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 20px; color: rgb(16, 16, 16); "&gt;"You were and are sufficiently devious, manipulative and bold to have got away with a highly risky sequence of sexual encounters over a period of 25 years."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 20px; color: rgb(16, 16, 16); "&gt;Despite fleeing the country after the allegations surfaced Robinson was kept on by the Archdiocese of Birmingham until December 2001, earning up to £800 a month and bagging a separate payment of £8,400 in 2000.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 20px; color: rgb(16, 16, 16); "&gt;But Robinson, 73, still claimed in court he could not afford to return to Britain.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 20px; color: rgb(16, 16, 16); "&gt;Describing the Catholic Church's role in Robinson's case as highly questionable, Judge Thomas said: "It is not for me to judge.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 20px; color: rgb(16, 16, 16); "&gt;"Others may take the view that a full investigation and full disclosure of the results of that investigation is due to the members of that church and [Robinson's victims]."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 20px; color: rgb(16, 16, 16); "&gt;Robinson turned his back on a professional boxing career in his 20s to become a Roman Catholic priest. He worked in the Black Country, Staffordshire, Birmingham and Coventry after being ordained in 1971.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 20px; color: rgb(16, 16, 16); "&gt;Robinson, originally from Brownhills, near Walsall, West Mids, received a unanimous verdict.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 20px; color: rgb(16, 16, 16); "&gt;He did not face charges relating to two of his six victims because they contacted cops after he was extradited. 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font-size: 15px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 20px; color: rgb(16, 16, 16); "&gt;"They found it difficult to believe he had committed this abuse.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 20px; color: rgb(16, 16, 16); "&gt;"But clearly the evidence and the decision of the jury by accepting what the victims have said, demonstrates this abuse has taken place and Robinson did live this double life."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 20px; "&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Read more: &lt;a href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3192776/Evil-paedo-priest-jailed-for-21-years.html?OTC-RSS&amp;amp;ATTR=News#ixzz14QOJYWr8" style="color: rgb(0, 51, 153); 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padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0.7em; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 1.3em; line-height: 1.38em; color: rgb(64, 64, 64); "&gt;Robinson, who worked in the Black Country, Staffordshire, Birmingham and Coventry after being ordained as a priest in 1971, denied all the charges but was jailed for 21 years.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0.7em; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 1.3em; line-height: 1.38em; color: rgb(64, 64, 64); "&gt;The court heard Robinson continued to be paid up to £800 a month by the Archdiocese of Birmingham until December 2001, despite officials being aware of the allegations.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0.7em; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 1.3em; line-height: 1.38em; color: rgb(64, 64, 64); "&gt;Robinson told the court he had been unable to afford to return to Britain, but the jury later heard that in February 2000 the archdiocese sent him a cheque worth £8,400.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0.7em; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 1.3em; line-height: 1.38em; color: rgb(64, 64, 64); "&gt;Judge Thomas said: "The role of the Catholic Church [in the case] is questionable, but it's not for me to judge.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0.7em; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 1.3em; line-height: 1.38em; color: rgb(64, 64, 64); "&gt;"Others may take the view that a full investigation and full disclosure of the results of that investigation is due to the members of that church and [the victims]."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0.7em; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 1.3em; line-height: 1.38em; color: rgb(64, 64, 64); "&gt;Describing the defendant as "devious, manipulative and bold", the judge said Robinson's crimes were "unimaginably wicked".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0.7em; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 1.3em; line-height: 1.38em; color: rgb(64, 64, 64); "&gt;He added: "You used, you abused your position of trust, your position of authority and total trust within the communities that you moved to and from."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0.7em; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 1.3em; line-height: 1.38em; color: rgb(64, 64, 64); "&gt;The judge also condemned the defendant's decision to emigrate in the hope of outrunning the law, adding: "Fortunately, the law does not forget, your victims would not forget and you have been brought to justice."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0.7em; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 1.3em; line-height: 1.38em; color: rgb(64, 64, 64); "&gt;The Most Reverend Bernard Longley, the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Birmingham, issued a statement after the case confirming that Robinson would be defrocked after his convictions.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0.7em; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 1.3em; line-height: 1.38em; color: rgb(64, 64, 64); "&gt;The archbishop, who refused to answer questions about the Church's role in Robinson's case, said: "The Archdiocese of Birmingham sincerely regrets James Robinson's serious betrayal of the trust placed in him."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7322511481612577767-5504772128909007092?l=badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/feeds/5504772128909007092/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/2010/11/fr-james-robinson-02.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7322511481612577767/posts/default/5504772128909007092'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7322511481612577767/posts/default/5504772128909007092'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://badnewsaboutchristianity.blogspot.com/2010/11/fr-james-robinson-02.html' title='Fr James Robinson 02'/><author><name>Bad News</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12774679970522264882</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7322511481612577767.post-596175845454657385</id><published>2010-11-05T08:56:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-11-05T08:59:07.160-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Fr James Robinson 01</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); 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line-height: 16px; font-weight: bold; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11595092"&gt;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11595092&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="story-date" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; display: block; padding-top: 13px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 8px; padding-left: 0px; width: 290px; float: left; "&gt;&lt;span class="date" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; font-weight: bold; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="story-date" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; display: block; padding-top: 13px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 8px; padding-left: 0px; width: 290px; float: left; "&gt;&lt;span class="date" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; font-weight: bold; "&gt;22 October 2010&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="time-text" style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; "&gt;Last updated at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="time" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; "&gt;15:31 GMT&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;h1 class="story-header" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 34px; margin-top: 3px; margin-right: -160px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 2.461em; clear: both; position: relative; width: 624px; font-weight: bold; letter-spacing: -1px; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; "&gt;Former priest jailed for 'wicked' sex abuse of boys&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;div class="caption body-narrow-width" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; position: relative; clear: both; float: right; display: inline; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: -160px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 16px; "&gt;&lt;img src="http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/49612000/jpg/_49612798_priest_221010_kenyon_confronts_online1.jpg" width="304" height="171" alt="James Robinson" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; -webkit-user-select: none; position: relative; font-size: 13px; letter-spacing: 0px; font-weight: normal; font-style: italic; " /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; display: block; width: 304px; "&gt;Robinson worked in churches in Staffordshire, Birmingham and Coventry&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class="introduction" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; font-weight: bold; "&gt;An "unimaginably wicked" former priest has been given a prison sentence of 21 years for sexually abusing boys in the West Midlands.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Richard John James Robinson, 73, was found guilty of 21 charges relating to offences against boys, all aged under 16, between 1959 and 1983.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;One victim told Birmingham Crown Court he had "carried" Mr Robinson's face with him ever since being assaulted.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Robinson was extradited from the US in August last year.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;He had worked in churches in Staffordshire, Birmingham and Coventry until the mid-1980s, when he moved to California.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="story-feature related narrow" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; position: relative; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: -160px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-left: 16px; width: 144px; float: right; display: inline; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; clear: right; "&gt;&lt;a class="hidden" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11595092#story_continues_1" style="color: rgb(31, 79, 130); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold; position: absolute; top: -5000px; left: -5000px; "&gt;Continue reading the main story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;h2 style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 11px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 12px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.231em; border-top-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(216, 216, 216); border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; 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text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Journalist confronted abuse priest in US&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11605038" style="color: rgb(31, 79, 130); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Abuse conviction hailed as 'victory'&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p id="story_continues_1" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Sentencing him, Judge Patrick Thomas QC said Robinson was "devious and manipulative".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;"The offences you committed were unimaginably wicked and caused immense and long-lasting - we can only hope not permanent - damage to the six victims.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;"You used, you abused your position of trust, your position of authority and total trust within the communities that you moved to and from."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Judge Thomas said of Robinson's targeting of the boys: "You enjoyed doing your best to habituate them, to groom them into accepting what you did to them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;"You were, and are, sufficiently devious, manipulative and bold to have got away with a highly risky sequence of sexual encounters over a period of 25 years."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;He also criticised Robinson for refusing to return to the UK to face his accusers, saying he believed he was beyond the reach of the law.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; 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font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold; font: normal normal bold 10px/24px helvetica, arial, sans-serif !important; letter-spacing: 0px !important; text-transform: uppercase; "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class="caption" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 16px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1em; text-rendering: auto; clear: both; position: relative; float: none; display: block; "&gt;'Father Robinson had moved on too many times. But finally we had a tip-off he was living in a trailer park in the US,' says Kenyon&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;"Fortunately, the law does not forget, your victims would not forget and you have been brought to justice."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The court had also heard Robinson was paid £800 a month by the Archdiocese of Birmingham until December 2001, after officials had been made aware of the allegations.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Robinson had said in court he was unable to afford to return to Britain, even though the Church had sent him a cheque for £8,400.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;Judge Thomas said it was not for him to judge the Catholic Church's role in proceedings.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="story-feature narrow" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; position: relative; margin-top: 0px; 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padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.231em; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; clear: left; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Robinson engaged in a course of behaviour that we would recognise today as a grooming process”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="quote-credit" style="color: rgb(80, 80, 80); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; display: block; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 0px; clear: both; "&gt;Det Ch Insp Steve Bimson&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p id="story_continues_2" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;"Others may take the view that a full investigation and full disclosure of the results of that investigation is due to the members of that church and Robinson's victims."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;The court heard prosecutor John Atwood say Robinson had "something of a knack for spotting the quiet child of the family".&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helmet, Freesans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 18px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.077em; text-rendering: auto; clear: left; "&gt;He told
